[governance] Where are we going?

[Tom Vest]

On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:

> I also think "bottom up consensus" in a community usually means that
> if there is very strong opposition/dissent from some
> communities/stakeholders remains, in good faith, then even that is a
> minority, we should respect that and not take decision based on simple
> majority even though the majority could not accept with the reasons
> given from the minority.

Hi Izumi,

Without commenting on this particular issue, your suggestion runs  
afoul of the same kind of infinite regress that Milton recognized a  
couple of days back. If one assumes that Milton is also speaking for  
a "minority of stakeholders" who strongly disagree with the latest  
decision, how do you reconcile the conflict?

TV

On Apr 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Milton Mueller wrote:

>> Also are 'fundamental rights' divinely ordained ... Or are
>> they what societies (with active participation of Governments)
>> have accepted at particular points in time.
>
> This argument gets you into a dead end, an infinite regress. Who or
> what are the "societies" that establish rights? They are composed of
> people like you and me. And if I and others who agree strongly  
> advocate
> for a free internet and free expression, then "society" may accept and
> institute that. Let's have that debate on the merits. We cannot sit
> poassively back and accept what "society" tells us is our rights. We
> must actively shape and define them, based on our knowledge and our
> conscience.  That is the business we are in here, isn't it?


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