[governance] Re: Antispam practices

[Vittorio Bertola]

Patrick Vande Walle ha scritto:
>>To me, this does not look like boycott, since it is not that you are
>>stopping to buy some ISP's products (something that affects only you and
>>the company you are boycotting): you are actively shutting out of the
>>network all customers of that ISP, by blocking their traffic.
> 
> Look at it another way: if your ISP is behaving in a manner that does
> not suit the way you want to use the Internet (by blocking ports, using
> blacklists, etc), you are free to switch to a competitor.

And if basically all major ISPs in a country behave like that? In Italy 
I use Wind/Libero/Infostrada and I am blacklisted, don't even think 
about Telecom Italia, Fastweb is being blacklisted everywhere for its 
practice of reusing other people's IPs... Many smaller ones just resell 
IP blocks and services from the big ones... I'm not sure things would 
get any better for me if I switched ISP - and we are talking about one 
of the biggest European countries. Just imagine in other parts of the world!

Or what if you live in a country where you can only pick one (national) 
ISP? I remember, a few years ago, watching the Syrian delegate in an ITU 
meeting complain about the entire country (ie the national ISP) being 
blacklisted for some days and being unable to communicate with the world 
by email.

It's not that I don't see the market solution and the importance of 
getting ISPs to behave, but I just don't assume that users are always in 
a position to switch ISP, or that not being blacklisted should become 
the main criterion to pick your ISP. Most users don't even understand 
what blacklisting is, you can't expect them to deal with this problem.

And then, actually what you are suggesting is that I should only pick 
ISPs that give me static IP addresses, since dynamic ranges are being 
blacklisted anyway just for that reason :-(
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vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<-----
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