[governance] National vs. International was Re: Program for IGC at IGF

[Adam Peake]

>
>>Avri Doria wrote:
>>>in many localities, the cheapest access, is that provided by the  
>>>community for free.
>>Touché.
>>How can we feed this in the access session of the IGF?
>
>Not sure.  but we make sure people talk about it.
>Business forces have certainly been fighting 
>this trend with every weapon possible.  It might 
>be good to get together a document that list all 
>the place where business and national government 
>have colluded to make this more difficult or 
>even impossible.


What do you mean when you say business have been 
fighting this trend -- municipal Wi-Fi and fiber? 
And who is business, telcos and cable companies? 
(Google?)

If you are talking about municipal broadband, the 
trend has changed.  Many are now developing as 
public/private partnerships.  Even AT&T is 
bidding for (and winning) contracts to build and 
run muni Wi-Fi networks.  Legislation in the US 
(draft) favors municipalities.

Europe is beginning to see fiber deployments led 
by municipalities. Open network model: 
commissioned and at least part owned by the 
municipality, run by the city or a contracted 
service provider, and then made available to any 
service provider that wishes to offer service 
over the network. Amsterdam the leader in this.

It is good <http://www.citynet.nl/upload/Muni-fiber-in-Europe-october-2006.pdf>

Though not really relevant to access in 
developing countries.  But the recent Bill Moyers 
'The Net at Risk' documentary (PBS, streaming 
online at the moment here 
<http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/net/index.html>) 
has discussion at the beginning relevant to some 
of Parminder's comments about public investment 
in infrastructure.  How in the 1990s the RBOCs 
got tax breaks and rate relief in the promise of 
building out fiber ... took the cash and didn't 
build the network.  US broadband now generally 
sucks (given that the US was for so long the 
leader in all things Internet.) Japan was similar 
-- a lot of tax break type subsidy for building 
network infrastructure, which actually was used 
to build network and is now the core of the 
broadband growth and cheap service we enjoy. 
Japan has not subsidized residential broadband 
per se, but in the past subsidized elements that 
have now enable very successful and competitive 
commercial residential broadband.

Adam






Adam



>>
>>>i do not beleive  any of them will give up 
>>>their greed, corruption or nationalist 
>>>interests without the pressure that can only 
>>>be generated  internationally.
>>Question (not rethorically, not meant to defend national regulation):
>>How do we fend off greed, corruption or 
>>particularist interests on the international 
>>level?
>
>I think that transparency goes a long way here. 
>In the national setting it is very easy for the 
>government to stifle the press and even the net. 
>On the international stage it is more difficult, 
>especially if groups like this keep up the 
>pressure.
>
>a.
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