[governance] Program for IGC at IGF

[Laurent Ferrali]

Hi,

I believe there are, at least, two different situations:


I don't think LDCs have enough power to bind international companies 
working on their territory. In this case, these countries need some 
basic international rules to give them the opportunity to build their 
policy in these areas.


In developped countries (with a stronger and a more complex economy).  I 
guess regulation is the best way. Legislation process is to slow 
(compared to the market's variations) but useful to give some 
guidelines. Governments should provide the more effective tools to 
national commissions (FCC, etc) to get involved.


Regards,


Laurent




George Sadowsky a écrit :
> Milton,
>
> I'm concerned with a slightly broader aspect, although my focus in 
> this thread is clearly upon access, in a larger sense.  I'm concerned 
> about the economic health of the Internet industry in a country, and 
> that's very much a function of the government's attitude toward 
> competition, free enterprise, laissez-faire (or not), and 
> transparency, in procurement, in giving licenses, in creating or 
> destroying barriers to entry, etc....
>
> The healthier and fairer that the industry is, the more prices to 
> consumers of Internet services will reflect real costs and not 
> monopoly status, the more customers are able to trust the access they 
> have as being confidential, then the faster the Internet will grow and 
> serve the developmental goals of the country.  And, if the country has 
> reasonable consumer protection legislation, it is likely to really 
> benefit the growth of e-commerce on the net and not retard it.  These 
> are issues that are directly affected by national government policy, 
> legislation and regulation.
>
> What I do disagree with is Avri's assertion that it is ONLY on the 
> international stage that Internet issues can be dealt with.  I do not 
> disagree with the implication that there do exist issues that require 
> international attention.
>
> Just trying to restore a sense of balance to the discussion ...
>
> Regards,
>
> George
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>
>
> At 4:05 PM -0400 10/22/06, Milton Mueller wrote:
>> This is an interesting discussion. I find myself agreeing with both Avri
>> and George. The positions can be reconciled by noting that George is
>> talking mainly about the relationship between Internet access and the
>> physical layer (wireless, broadband and other forms of infrastructure
>> development) whereas Avri is refrring to "the Internet" as a whole which
>> is of course global in scope and a layer 3 issue.
>>
>> There is no doubt in my mind that the policies that affect the
>> availability of physical infrastructure in a country are primarily
>> national in development and application. And they are affected not only
>> by national telecom policies, they are powerfully affected by national
>> economic development policies, for if people have enough money to buy
>> services lots of infrastructure development issues take care of
>> themselves more readily, as the Chinese have learned.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>  george.sadowsky at attglobal.net 10/22/2006 9:01:20 AM >>>
>> Avri,
>>
>> Let's look at access policy _within_ a country, e.g. licensing of
>> ISPs, decisions with regard to ISP liability, monopoly telecomm
>> carriers, not-level playing fields, licensing of ISPs, licensing of
>> wireless frequencies and devices.  etc.  These are all issues of
>> national policy.
>>
>> It may be that international best practices can provide good
>> guidelines, but these are more likely to be de facto standards set by
>> industry than the result of intergovernmental action.
>>
>> Perhaps we have different definitions of policy.
>>
>> George
>>
>> At 12:04 AM +0200 10/22/06, Avri Doria wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 21 okt 2006, at 21.11, George Sadowsky wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I am reacting to is what I observe is the conventional wisdom
>>>> that I find faulty: that Internet governance and related Internet
>>>> issues are essentially international in character,
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree. I think it is only on the international stage that
>>> governance and other Internet issues can be dealt.  I don't believe
>>> that it is up to governments to do it though i do see them having
>>> some role.  i don't believe there is is any right of nations to make
>>> policy vis a vis the Internet.  They may do so, and they even get
>>> away with it at the moment, but i think we lose a major battle the
>>> second we start to believe that they have some _right_ to do so.  I
>>> tend to view the IGF and other international, but not
>>> intergovernemental, organizations as a bulwark against the
>>> continuing nationalization of the Internet.
>>>
>>>> that wanted to emasculate ICANN
>>  >
>>> interesting image, but i do not see what being masculine, or having
>>> masculine external attributes, has to do with being an effective
>>> international organization.  not that i am prepared to argue that
>>> the current ICANN incarnation is particularly effective, though i
>>> think that has more to do with its form of governance and its lack
>>> of freedom from national and other government pressure.
>>>
>>> a.
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