[governance] McTim on the status quo

[McTim]

On 10/21/06, Milton Mueller <Mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
> >>> dogwallah at gmail.com 10/20/2006 10:19 AM >>>
> >I'd rather participate in the already existent IG structures that
> >actually make decisions that mean something.  The bodies that I
> >participate in are already transparent in leadership section and
> >policy making, and they are open to all interested parties.
>
> McTim, you have made this point many times.

True, just because a point is repeated, doesn't mean it is less valid.


>
> I would like to challenge your assertion about the transparency of
> existing IG mechanisms with a fact you may not be aware of. During the
> U.S. NTIA Notice of Inquiry proceeding in June, someone I know sent a
> message to the ARIN policy discussion list, which is supposedly open and
> unmoderated,


it is:  http://arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html


asking quite innocuously what people there thought about
> the NTIA proceeding and whether they planned to file comments.
>
> The message never appeared on the list. It was blackholed, censorsed.

I would suggest that this is not the case, perhaps the mail was sent
to arin-discuss at arin.net which is open to ARIN mmebers only, or if
sent to ppml at arin.net, then probaby not sent from an address that is
subscribed to the list.

I know that list is unmoderated.


> Apparently, someone at ARIN didn't want to permit an open discussion of
> the relationship between ICANN (which delegates address space to ARIN)
> and the USG.

Now that is a bit paranoid.  To be pedantic, IANA allocates space to
ARIN and other RIRs.

>
> While I am not aware of similar practices there, I participate
> extensively in ICANN-related matters. ICANN's transparency and
> accountability are still matters of considerable debate and discussion.

Yes, further reform is needed at the top, but it's the bottom up that
counts for me, as that is where policy is decided.

>
>
> The Forum is a good and needed meta-venue for raising such questions.

Perhaps, but my point is that it has no decision making abillity, nor
is it transparent or bottom up.

>
> I have participated extensively in both ICANN and domestic US
> legislative and policy issues. Nevertheless, I find the Forum a useful
> way to approach the global Internet governance issues from a holistic
> standpoint.
>

Again, your participation is at the top of the tree, go to the bottom,
you'll get more bang for your buck!

I'm on safari this weekend, perhaps Ray can shed more light on the
mailing list issues.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
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