[governance] WSIS principles and conferences

[Carlos Afonso]

Frankly, I think we are off to a bad start if people nominate themselves 
to any nominating committee... whatever their qualifications. This must 
be done in a different way. I know it would be simpler to just have a 
flock of people desiring to nominate other people and from this build 
the nomcom, but I do not trust the results.

BTW, "all the people in this list wanting to be in the Advisory 
Committee" does not include me -- this view of the process is also a bad 
start. It is not a question of personal desires but of indication by 
constituencies. Any of us can continue to help in this process whether 
we are in or out -- supposing we will have a process to choose reps from 
the different interest groups which will be accepted by the SG.


--c.a.

David Goldstein escreveu:
> Hi all
> 
> Given there are others on this list who are in a
> better position to be on an Advisory Group, I am happy
> to nominate myself to be on the Nominating Committee
> should others on the list desire.
> 
> Cheers
> David
> --- Milton Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Congratulations, Danny. I was feeling pretty sure
>> that Avri's proposed method would fail
>> because...well, because all of the active people on
>> this list want to be on the Advisory Group (yes,
>> that includes me), so I thought no one would
>> volunteer for the Nominating Committee. But you
>> proved me wrong. So that's one down, 4 to go. ;-)
>>
>> I also am concerned about the fact that we have no
>> coordinators and no established procedure for making
>> decisions, and now we are faced with a need for
>> fairly quick action. 
>>
>> We have no real means of authoritatively choosing a
>> Nominating Committee, except via some form of
>> consensus or passive acquiescence on the list. But
>> if we can choose 5 nomcom members that way, why
>> can't we select 10 IGF-MAG nominees that way also,
>> and eliminate a (potentially time consuming) step? 
>>
>> --MM
>>
>>>>> Danny Butt <db at dannybutt.net> 3/17/2006 7:29:41
>> PM >>>
>> Could someone clarify the likely role of the IGF
>> advisory group?
>>
>> If the advisory group will be establishing a process
>> for the forum,  
>> then our initial role in that should probably be
>> finding CS members  
>> with process expertise to put forward. I think that
>> WGIG members  
>> might be precisely the most useful people for that
>> advisory process.  
>> This might be different than the kind of
>> representation we would want  
>> for this caucus as a mechanism for CS participation
>> in the IGF itself  
>> - where particular areas of domain expertise would
>> be useful, and  
>> where broader outreach will be valuable.
>>
>> I support Avri's suggestion of a nominating
>> committee that excludes  
>> IGF-MAG participants, and also the use of the
>> process in RFC3797.
>>
>> We currently have no way of gauging consensus, but
>> if the nomcom idea  
>> is agreed to, I am happy to volunteer for the
>> nominating committee.
>>
>> I can also work on a charter for the group, but I
>> think this is going  
>> to take a bit longer, can it can come after we get
>> through the IGF- 
>> MAG process? But I agree with Bill that there is a
>> good opportunity  
>> here and it should be taken.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> On 18/03/2006, at 6:12 AM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I will be happy to work on a charter
>> for the group, with
>>> whoever else wants to join. We haven't decided
>> what we want the  
>>> group to
>>> be - procedure only or also substance related, for
>> example - but I  
>>> guess
>>> we can follow the proactivity rule: those who
>> really care will work  
>>> out
>>> the details, and others will follow as long as
>> they make good choices.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Danny Butt
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