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Robert Guerra
rguerra at lists.privaterra.org
Mon Sep 26 07:03:51 EDT 2005
26 sept - internet governance subcommittee notes
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internet society (ISOC)
- suggests add/improve capacity building
- improve regulatory environment
- to use existing fora and organizations for IG. IG already occurs
at local, regional and intl levels
- do not believe that call for new cooperation model is needed.
- evolutionary change from existing organizations.
- no consensus on next steps.
ICC (on behalf of cbbi)
Chair -
- first reading of the chair's text
- nothing is agreed.
- we will not open document on agreeded documents, ie. geneva documents
- suggest the following method:
* go through para by para and submit proposals/revisions
1. INTRO SECTION
El salvador
- to make link CS on way IG should be achieved.
- would like to insert before 39, an
(to insert before 39)
recognizing internet is a global facility available to the public.
good IG is a foundation for a people centred inclusive and
development oriented IS. furthermore, as a global sciality security
and stability should be assured.
(from the CS text?)
chair:
- why add this here?
El salvador
- there is no clear link between IG and information society towards
development. these are things were implicit - are the reason d'etre.
wanted to make this link clear.
chair
- concerned with the placement of the language
- reaction by others?
Bangladesh
- ict activities must have involvement of
- add reference so that UN specialized agencies can support the govt
efforts.
-(1) add request , add that UN specialised financial agencies
support ongoing efforts
- (2) unfettered access
chair
- bangladesh, do you have any specific comments on para 39 or first
section of the chair's text?
- another other suggestions?
Russia:
- add reference to scientific and academic community to para 39
iran
- in what stage of our work are we?
- are we just in drafting exercise and we will go along with it.
- we support the initial proposal that we stick the agreed language
as much as possible.
- if we add new elements, then we have to enter a discussion of
balance. let's avoid a conceptional discussion.
- suggests:
* dop 48, part of it is missing. add reference that IS is a global
resource.
- the internet has involved as a global resource. IG should be
multilateral, govt, cs, ps, and intl organizations.
saudi arabia / arab grp
(add to 39-42)
- add references ..to equitabile and "non discimatary ?? access to 39
US
- supports el salvador proposal, in regards to the introduction
- revise it as follows..
"..furthermore, as a global facility we commit to its security and
stability"
revised text now stands as follows:
"Recognizing internet is a global facility available to the public.
good IG is a foundation for a people centred inclusive and
development oriented IS. furthermore, as a global facility we commit
to the its stability and security."
comment on 41-42
para 41.
(add some in regards to issues & roles & responsibilities)
- suggest that wgig report has raised and id some of the issues, and
that it has aided us to understand some of the roles and
responsibilities.
- suggest this, as not all issues have been mentioned nor raised.
nepal
para 39.
- clarification on distribution of resources
chair.
- it is a generic term
Mauritania
- underlines that 39 is a balanced paragraph as it refers to DoP and
principles of IG.
- nevertheless, support iran and saudi arabia's proposals
ghana (africa grp)
- reserve our comments on stakeholders until later
new zealand
- supports approach to para 39
- comment on para 40
* add secretariat to 2nd paragraph (to ack their role)
- should have mention to security and stability of the internet. from
para 6 of wgig report.
- security and stability of the internet is of paramount importance
(from wgig report)
el salvador
- concern that co-ordination be added as it's in DoP.
- add reference to all inclusive information society.
chair
- let's not bombard para 39. let's keep the interventions focused
iran
- re-interate that stay to agreeded text
- principle of stability and security of the internet (it's already
in DoP in para 48)
- we worry about subordinating principles to others.
- if we add references to security then, we also need to add
references to multi-lateral, democratic nature of the internet (no
reference to multi-stakeholders...so it's only govts)
- concept from el salvador is already in DoP.
- if 39 changes from agreed text, then supports saudi propsoal
egypt
- supports el salvador & saudi
- 39: should be multi-laternal, demcratic
- supports saudi arabia: equitable and non-discriminatory nature
dom republic
- asks for clarification. need to add gender equality to the spanish
translation.
- need to have translation so that the language used is gender balanced.
- add that refernce be added to human development
chair
- any suggestions to the language in spanish?
- we should guarantee equality to man & woman
cuba
- supports arab group
brazil
- no providing any language
- principle shall be that we are not going to ready agreeded to in
geneva decl of principles. this end is important.
- we should not pick and choose which principles to support and endorse
- we have 11 principles
chair
- better to stick to previous documents
-
burkina faso
- para 39.
* fundamental rights to multilingualism should be added.
chair
- there are other numeric possibilities. please, please, give us
input on other sections
south africa
- support comments made by brazil, cuba & iran in regards to stay
with existing agreed text
- revision to el salvador's text: need to ack
* add referecne to legimitiacy, internationalization & inclusivity
chair
- ZA what do you mean?
south africa
- that all stake-holders are supposed to participate.
- if there is a problem with security and stability and you need to
re-state it, then you should do the same for legitimacy,
internationalization and inclusivity
chair
- legitimacy is a loaded term. let's be careful
saudi arabia
- would like to support brazil's statement that we have already
agreeded text. let's not re-open the text
- proposal:
concerns the text of para 6 of wgig report, and how it's referenced
in pra 39 (48 in DoP).
- if we are to choose between the wgig and the DoP, then we would
prefer that para 17
- para . IG of the document should be multi-lateral, transparent and
democratic.. we should not say "should be multi-lateral". the geneva
declaration is far more firm.
- suggests the spanish translation be used. take out refence to
"should ". text should read " IG IS multi-lateral"....
chair
- we are trying to find common ground, as such "should" is ok.
-
algeria
- we thought 39 as drafted was ok.
- however, the all the proposals - the para 39 is changing away from
the aim.
- strongly supports para AS IS. however, if changes are made - we
would agree of propso
- furthermore, if there's a strong reference to security then there
should also be a reference to multi-lateral reference to IG (south
african proposal)
- agree with new zealand proposal.
para 41.
- do not agree with "some" additional as suggested by USG
chair
- para 39 has become shadow boxing for the real fight ahead
iran
- supports 41 as is, as it comes from the mandate of the wgig (from
the plan of action)
US response:
- agree that phase I should be used as governing text
- in regards to qualifier "some" in 41.
- the concept of "an enabling environment" is in the DoP, and not in
the wgig report. it's is worth our attention.
chair
- change "some" to " a number of" ..public policy issues.
Morocco
- agree with chair's approach.
- does not agree with approach being taken today. as it would not
lead to a result in the immediate future.
malawi
- support South africa and others.
- proposal that add one word "multi-lateral" to para 39 in regards to
management
nigeria
- will all decions be taking place in subcomittee plenary?
- there should be a balance between security and multilateralism
russia:
- speaking on behalf of CIS
- seeks clarification on 39. can you put in screen to suggest
specific admenments
- after "the itnernet" ADD " a central element of the infrastructure
of the information society
- after "evolve" , "scientific and academic "
these two changes would make it closer to what was proposed by WGIG
report.
chair
- para 43 & 44 - comments?
colombia
- recommend :
* 43a. with regard to support to governments in development in both
global technical norms and public policy internet
- reads as follows:
* international organizations have developed and must continue to
undertake an important role to support governments.
* add reference to international norms and public policy issues
43d. responsibilities here are limited. revise by adding the following..
", in addition to their current responsibilities, " - would express
quite clearly the responsibilities of intergovernmental organizations
43a. wrt. for internet public policy issues, i
- responsibilities to support governments
resulting in
intl organizations have a responsiblity for and rights with and must
contunue to support governemnts in development of both global
technical norms and international internet public policy issues
congo
para 42
- we must forget multilateral
uruguay
- para 43 in general seems to be ok as a basis for enabling us to
come to some conclusions
- add reference to technical and scientific community (sited from
wgig report)
- suggests that include another sub-para - f - to mention:
... the academic and technological community has made, and should
continue to carry out a valuable contribution tot he development and
functioning of the internet.
el salvador
- suggests a preable to section 2
- conviction that all stakeholders, cs, business, govts should
actively participate in a co-ordinated and commensurate way with
respct to their respective roles & rsponilibilities
(from rio commitment)
reasoning: everyone needs to
chair
- what is the added value to your proposal?
el salvador
- the added value . talks about co-ordination, which such be
commensurate with the roles & responsibilities.
- we should open the door to even individuals be able to contribute
chair
- WGIG came up with the language "respective roles of stake-holders".
- we will reflect on this further
bangladesh
- insert in 43e.
* international organizations including the United nations...
chair
- on friday evening we issues a cross references document.
- from there, 43 comes from 49 of DoP. so we have a limited room to
manover. unless we want to re-open the debate.
- we have a delicate balance.
iraq
(1)
- what does colombia exactly propose?
- would disagree with colombia's proposal.
(2) in rgeards to adding a new constituency (academic & technical
constituency)
- in geneva texts have followed comprehensive approach all possible
stakeholders, as to who belongs to who.
- stick to DoP and not added a new stakeholder.
Senegal (african grp)
- public authorities should also play a role in the development and
coordination
- we should be specific , the public authorities
proposal:
* role of public authorities : should add reference
[link to digital solidarity fund/ cities & local authorities]
saudi arabia
- para 43 takes up most of DoP para 49 , as such this is agreeded
text that should be retained as is.
nigeria
- para 43 is consistent with para 49 in DoP, and thus should be
retarined.
- suggests that academic and technical community be mentioned. but as
they might be mentioned in
australia
(1) - technical and academic communities should be recognized.
suggests 43f, and will suggest text.
"academic , sci and tech communites have played a role....
(2) the role of CS is quite superficial vs. what in WGIG report.
should get input from CS in this regard
(3) revision to 43bis in regards to private sector
dom republic
- endorses the uruguay proposal to add role of technical and
scientific community
- import is the share the acquisition of knowledge.
in regards to CS
- talk about the communities. CS build capacity building
43c. add academic and scientific community to 43c (cs section).
* thus, technical and scientific
CHAIR
DRAFTING GROUP
- AN OPEN ENDING DRAFTING GROUP
(1) uruguat chairs
public policy issues
EU
- support wgig para 49. however if we are to look in modifying
note that para 42 already talks about multistakehodlers
- further promote dialogue between stakeholders
- support referecne to academic sector
43c.
- it is wider than community level. delete community reference
CANADA
- let's stay with 43
- roles of the academic, cs & technical community. many have
mentioned there needs to be an increased role for those communities.
we prefer that that discussion take place in section 5.
??? (LAC country)
- 43bis : add reference to Rio commitment
3. public policy issues
- Benin
- para 45 : issue that only with single government.
- do we express a good, bad or neutral appreciation?
* we express our positive appreciation. we need to add a positive
qualifier.
chair
rusia:
- don't want to dwell on para 45.
- would like to reflect the difficulties that exist.
- suggest:
* add para 19 from WGIG report
- should list the difficulties that we have (from the wgig report)
canada
3a. is broad and sweeping - we might come back to this
- question of overall structure
- para 57. should be moved to end of section 3a
para 45:
- recalling USG intervention on friday,. needs to be strengthened.
an insurance should be made that security & stablity of the internet
be maintained.
saudi arabia
- restructure 3a.
para 47 & 48.
- however we do not propose any solutions. the arab group would le
3a restructure as follows:
* add a new para 45b which would be:
- we recognize the need for multilateral, transparent and transparent
over the root server and it's development
para 48: should feature
* after further development of gtld space, and the need to guarantee
the sovereignty of the cctlds
(add reference that cctld is a sovereignty perogative of states)
- we seek to ensure a fair and equitable distribution of IP addresses.
- remove reference in 46 to "clarification of the relationships among
the different actors"
iran
- 3a. is compropized of 2 parts (45 & 46), 48 refers to public policy
issues to critical itnernet resoruces
45 & 46:
45:
* no problem with 1st sentance
* would like to bring para 48 of wgig report in that no govt should
have a pre-eminent role
* ask for the deletion of the rest of the paragraph (don't need to
make a reference, yet again to security and stability)
46:
- delete the word more
- replace "stronger" with "strong"
- delete the rest of the sentence
in regards to instrastructure:
- supports saudi arabia.
- we need to clearly support the root zone, gltld, cctld as a
soverign right
azerbajan
- para 45
* important to mention some barriers and barriers to multistakeholder
involvement . in IG
* we should add para 19 from wgig report (supporting the rusian
proposal)
- support the iranian proposal, however propose we move it to section 5
brazil
- supports rusian proposal to add para 45 (to include para 19 from
wgig report)
- a way out to not have a long para
- perhaps use para 48, first bullet from wgig report here
para 45 - end it, with a statement that no single govt should have a
preminent role
israel :
- supports Canadian proposal
- would not support Iranian proposal
uganda
para 45.
- revise so it reads " we express our profound appreciation"
- propose 45bis.??
- para 46
* delete "solid" before democratic and add "legitimate" instead.
- para 47
- needs to be strengthened.
- Add @ end.
...in this regard we call for the reinforcement of regional
management institutions for the region to manage it's own internet
resources
.. we also recognize to further involvement of policies and procedures.
- add reference of sovereign right of states to cctlds
chair
- APPEAL - please send detailed proposals to
wsis-contributions at itu.int
USG
- para 46
- first sentance. there is a need to establish in this document a
linkage between the current structures of the mangement of the
internet and the overwhelming evidence of the growth of internet
based on current struvutre.
- the current, more rapid growth in the development growth
- suggested revision:
- we recognize and ack the vital role played by numerous existing
organizations in the technical management. We strive to build on the
current strucures that have facilitated the global growth of ithe
internet in a secure and stable fashion.
para 47:
- in regards to cctld. let's see the saudi proposal in writting in
regards to it.
- comemnts on uganda: there is an import role of rir's and they their
further development and concure and support uganda's proposal.
two final points
para 46:
- want to see iranian proposal in written form
- would associate with canadian proposal and would like to see it in
writting.
Civil Society
(adam peake)
india:
- 3a.
agree with sovereign right of countries in regards to cctld
- supports 46, 47, 48 as proposed by iran
china
- agree with para 47 proposal by saudi arabia
- proposing text on root server.
JAPAN
- para 45 & 46 - better if moved parts to para 5
-para 47:
* ip addresses : importance of equitable allocation
- UK (EU)
- find sthat para 45 is useful balance
para 46 - supports existing wording
para 47 - seeks to ensure globally balanced distribution. can endorce
saudi proposal
para 48 - two additions
* add technological before word "development"
new zealand
(1) supports canada on 45 & 46
(2) supports evolutionary change in mechanisms we are looking at
(3) para 46. support japan's equitable reference
para 47 in wgig report we might be able to burrow from
- let's see uganda's prposal in writting
venezuela
para 46 -
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