[governance] Government oversight (was Vixie ...)

Izumi AIZU aizu at anr.org
Tue Oct 11 09:52:59 EDT 2005


Another example, perhaps, is that many .com domains held by Iranian
entity (individuals and corporations alike) through Iranian registrars
were canceled without their consent. The base was, I assume, that
Iranian entity is being sanctioned by the US law since Iran is a
nation that supports terrorist activities. Ie, any US corporation
is prohibited from making commercial transaction with Iranians.
Hence US Registries had to stop selling domain names to
Iranians. (Registiries outside US can still continue, though)>

If applied strictly, ICANN as US corporation may not be able
to deal with Iranians, at least directly.

izumi


At 19:17 05/10/11 +0700, Norbert Klein wrote:
>Avri Doria wrote:
>
> >On 10 okt 2005, at 20.45, Laina Raveendran Greene wrote:
> >
>[snip]
>
> >>I was very concerned about this kind of baseless rumour
> >>mongering to raise people;s emotions that was being done both on
> >>the gov side as well as on CS side.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I don't think that mentioning a possibility is baseless rumor
> >mongering.  Now you may argue it is impossible, while others may
> >believe it is inevitable, but that is a matter of opinion and a
> >matter for discussion.  Putting down another persons argument as
> >baseless rumor mongering doesn't seem particularly helpful.
> >
> >
>Well, it is not baseless rumor mongering anyway. And it is not only
>mentioning a possibility - something like this actually did happen.
>
>(sorry, the URL given here does not seem to work any longer - I copied
>it down a long time ago)
>
>"Thu, Nov 22"  must have been 2001
>
>= =
>AP Via Excite - Updated: Thu, Nov 22 5:27 PM EST
>
>http://news.excite.com/news/ap/011122/17/int-attacks-somalia
>Somali Web Co. on US Suspects List
>By OSMAN HASSAN, Associated Press Writer
>
>MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) - Somalia's only Internet company was forced to
>close it offices Thursday, two weeks after appearing on a U.S. list of
>organizations with suspected links to terrorism. Somali Internet Co.
>shut down after the United Arab Emirates' state-owned Internet service,
>Etisalat, canceled its international access, said Abdulkadir Hassan
>Ahmed Kadleh, administrator for the Somali firm. "I first thought it was
>a technical problem, but then when I called the Etisalat company in
>Dubai, the engineers informed us that it was an intentional freeze
>down," Kadleh told The Associated Press.
>
>Somali Internet Co. is among 62 organizations and people the United
>States believes are funneling funds for international terror suspect
>Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network. The list was issued Nov. 7.
>The Mogadishu-based firm, created in 1998, is jointly owned by three
>Somali companies - Telecom Somalia, NationLink and Al-Barakaat. It has
>offices throughout southern Somalia. Al-Barakaat, Somalia's largest
>company, also is on the list and was forced to close its financial
>businesses, including a money transfer service vital to hundreds of
>thousands of impoverished Somalis, after its assets were frozen. On Nov.
>14, it also closed its international telephone service after U.S.-based
>Concert Communications, a joint venture between AT&T and British
>Telecom, cut off its international gateway. Al-Barakaat and Somali
>Internet Co. officials denied having links to terrorism. "This Internet
>company has nothing to do with terrorism," said Abdulaziz Haji, managing
>director of Telecom Somali. "It was losing money and it's only this year
>it just covered itself, so how can it provide somebody else with money?"
>Etisalat officials could not be contacted for comment Thursday. The Horn
>of Africa nation's banking and telecommunications systems collapsed
>during the decade of clan-based fighting that followed the ouster of
>dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
>
>A transitional government elected in August 2000 but has yet to
>re-establish state institutions. In the meantime, private companies have
>offered some of Africa's cheapest phone services. "Many people are now
>losing their jobs, others will suffer because the services are now in a
>total stagnation," Somali Internet customer Mohamed Ali Farah said. "We
>will have to go back to the old days of using fax and expensive
>telephones so as to transmit our messages."
>= =
>
>Norbert
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