[governance] Government oversight (was Vixie ...)

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

Thanks for this.  However, I am not sure how this demonstrates that  
the US abused it oversight role.  I see how it prevailed on  
corporations doing business, and that is another issue - countries  
considers it a sovereign right to stop its nationals from doing  
business with those it considers enemies. This is a good argument for  
internationalization of a body repsonsible for international resources.

But how does this show that it abused its steward role over the root?

thanks
a.

On 11 okt 2005, at 08.17, Norbert Klein wrote:

> Avri Doria wrote:
>
>
>> On 10 okt 2005, at 20.45, Laina Raveendran Greene wrote:
>>
>>
> [snip]
>
>
>>> I was very concerned about this kind of baseless rumour
>>> mongering to raise people;s emotions that was being done both on   
>>> the gov side as well as on CS side.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't think that mentioning a possibility is baseless rumor   
>> mongering.  Now you may argue it is impossible, while others may   
>> believe it is inevitable, but that is a matter of opinion and a   
>> matter for discussion.  Putting down another persons argument as   
>> baseless rumor mongering doesn't seem particularly helpful.
>>
>>
> Well, it is not baseless rumor mongering anyway. And it is not only  
> mentioning a possibility - something like this actually did happen.
>
> (sorry, the URL given here does not seem to work any longer - I  
> copied it down a long time ago)
>
> "Thu, Nov 22"  must have been 2001
> = =
> AP Via Excite - Updated: Thu, Nov 22 5:27 PM EST
>
> http://news.excite.com/news/ap/011122/17/int-attacks-somalia
> Somali Web Co. on US Suspects List
> By OSMAN HASSAN, Associated Press Writer
>
> MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) - Somalia's only Internet company was  
> forced to close it offices Thursday, two weeks after appearing on a  
> U.S. list of organizations with suspected links to terrorism.  
> Somali Internet Co. shut down after the United Arab Emirates' state- 
> owned Internet service, Etisalat, canceled its international  
> access, said Abdulkadir Hassan Ahmed Kadleh, administrator for the  
> Somali firm. "I first thought it was a technical problem, but then  
> when I called the Etisalat company in Dubai, the engineers informed  
> us that it was an intentional freeze down," Kadleh told The  
> Associated Press.
>
> Somali Internet Co. is among 62 organizations and people the United  
> States believes are funneling funds for international terror  
> suspect Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network. The list was  
> issued Nov. 7. The Mogadishu-based firm, created in 1998, is  
> jointly owned by three Somali companies - Telecom Somalia,  
> NationLink and Al-Barakaat. It has offices throughout southern  
> Somalia. Al-Barakaat, Somalia's largest company, also is on the  
> list and was forced to close its financial businesses, including a  
> money transfer service vital to hundreds of thousands of  
> impoverished Somalis, after its assets were frozen. On Nov. 14, it  
> also closed its international telephone service after U.S.-based  
> Concert Communications, a joint venture between AT&T and British  
> Telecom, cut off its international gateway. Al-Barakaat and Somali  
> Internet Co. officials denied having links to terrorism. "This  
> Internet company has nothing to do with terrorism," said Abdulaziz  
> Haji, managing director of Telecom Somali. "It was losing money and  
> it's only this year it just covered itself, so how can it provide  
> somebody else with money?" Etisalat officials could not be  
> contacted for comment Thursday. The Horn of Africa nation's banking  
> and telecommunications systems collapsed during the decade of clan- 
> based fighting that followed the ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad  
> Barre in 1991.
>
> A transitional government elected in August 2000 but has yet to re- 
> establish state institutions. In the meantime, private companies  
> have offered some of Africa's cheapest phone services. "Many people  
> are now losing their jobs, others will suffer because the services  
> are now in a total stagnation," Somali Internet customer Mohamed  
> Ali Farah said. "We will have to go back to the old days of using  
> fax and expensive telephones so as to transmit our messages."
> = =
>
> Norbert
>
>

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