[governance] APC - Forum draft?

[McTim]

Hello Vittorio,

On 11/10/05, Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu.org> wrote:

>
> However, the fact that you mention "relative representativity" makes me
> think that you imagine a sort of "quotas",

me too.

> so that you can't accept yet
> another civil society group if you already have 100 NGOs and only 5
> private businesses (random example). Am I right?
>
> In general, I think you should be very careful about the fact that the
> forum is open to anyone who meets some basic, formal, non-exclusionary
> criteria. This is what is commonly expected from Internet governance
> processes - mostly, people expect to find a mailing list and join,
> period. The idea of "bottom-up" is exactly that - all those who are
> interested gather and create a group at the above layer.
>

exactly. It's got to be equal to that in terms of open, bottum-uppity-ness.

> > > What should such "nomination process" be for - to nominate whom?
> >
> > Member of the forum.

you have to be nominated to play in this sandbox? Or is this
nominations ONLY for the eight seat group?

>
> So it's like, there's APC and CPSR applying for forum membership and a
> nominating committee deciding which of the two orgs becomes a member?
> Just to understand.

Yes, and is one org excluded?

> If I'm right, then I disagree. It seems you have in mind something more
> like the UN ICT Task Force, rather than the IETF - am I correct?

That's the way I read it as well.  I agree, it's disturbing, and I
can't support this.  I may have misread it (but this is my 3rd
reading).

> > Personally I find the tripartite model of stakeholders very limiting, and I
> > suspect it will be quite shortlived.

I agree with AE here.


> Again, on such a groundbreaking development, I think inclusiveness is
> much more important than effectiveness. After all, if this Forum is not
> "bought in" from the bottom, it will never fly.

FULL ACK

> On procedures, I share Bill's concern, and I would rather like the
> caucus come up with something on its own, rather than adopt a proposal
> from a specific organization - even if building over it.

Agreed.

--
Cheers,

McTim
nic-hdl:      TMCG
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In
practice there is"
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