[governance] ".ARPA management data (e.g., WHOIS entries) are to be considered authoritative from the IAB"

Jim Fleming JimFleming at ameritech.net
Mon Dec 26 10:11:24 EST 2005

Has anyone ever seen "WHOIS entries" for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

Are these domain names different ?

Are people aware of the U.S. Government's plan to use IN-ADDR.US ?

Are these domain names different ?

RE: http://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence/2005-12-22-dot-arpa.html#1
".ARPA management data (e.g., WHOIS entries) are to be considered
authoritative from the IAB"

Thinking Cat Enterprises
732 Catoctin Cir NE
Leesburg, VA 20176

Ms. Leslie Daigle:

The purpose of this note is three-fold:

1. I would like to determine what the current market-value and/or price is
for what is commonly called a /8 allocation of IP address space. That would
be 32-bit address space with the left-most 8-bits
fixed at a value from 0 to 255 and the remaining 24 bits available for
addressing millions of nodes. As most people know, /8 allocations are
similar to other spectrum which would normally
be managed by a government agency, such as the U.S. FCC, to ensure fair
allocations and stable management.

2. I would like to attempt to determine how one determines who really owns a
specific /8 allocation of IP address space. Along with that, in conjunction
with #1, I would like to determine the history of ALL 256 /8s listed in the
table commonly found via the following URL.

3. Combining #1 and #2, I would like to determine what fees, if any, are
paid from one party to another for a single /8 allocation of IP address
space. Questions related to this item would be:
Are the fees one-time ? annual ? Who pays what to whom ? Are the fees based
on patent
rights or licensing ? Also, what role, if any, does the U.S. Government have
in transactions
between various parties regarding /8 allocations of IP address space. As
noted below, it
appears that the U.S. DOC (DARPA) ARPA claims to have no "operational

In summary, this initial message or request seeks to determine, what is the
value of a /8, who
really owns them, and how are they obtained and paid for?

Your note referenced above appears to indicate that you *think* that you
have some
involvement in these matters, and may be considered an expert in this
subject matter.
As noted below, other parties also seem to indicate that they own or have
rights to address
space and some seem to indicate "theft" has occured. In order to help ensure
the stability
and security of the Internet, there seems to be wide-spread agreement that
theft of cyberspace
would not help to create a stable platform.

Since there are 256 /8s, one would think that it is a rather simple task to
keep track of the
owners of those /8s. I note for the record that there are numerous
inconsistencies in the
information provided by the various tables referenced below, "WHOIS entries"
by various companies claiming to lease address blocks, and the contents of
the DNS. A survey
of the contents of the DNS for the 256 IN-ADDR.ARPA zones shows that various
parties are
using blocks claimed to be "reserved" and some blocks claimed to be in use
have no DNS
entry. Also, a survey of  the US consumer industry shows that companies
freely use /8s
(such as 0/8) in their products and are not referenced in any of the tables
you cite.

According to your comments:
".ARPA management data (e.g., WHOIS entries) are to be considered
authoritative from the IAB"
Can you provide the "WHOIS entries" for the 256 /8s ?

Jim Fleming

=============== Attached References ==============




"A final point is the hijacking of the .ARPA domain from the IAB.  It is not
clear to me which party incalculated this component into the agreements (I
have my ideas) but theft of the management of this domain without the
approval of the IAB and the US DoC is ...  theft."

Administrative Contact:
Daigle, Leslie L          leslie at THINKINGCAT.COM
Thinking Cat Enterprises
732 Catoctin Cir NE
Leesburg, VA 20176

Technical Contact:
Faltstrom, Patrik         verisign at paf.se
Firma PAF
Lovestad 273 71
+46-70-6059051 fax: 123 123 1234

Record expires on 19-Sep-2008.
Record created on 20-Sep-1996.
Database last updated on 26-Dec-2005 01:25:32 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:



April 28, 2000

   Mr. Louis Touton
   Vice-President, Secretary, and General Counsel
   Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
   4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
   Marina del Rey, CA 90292

   Re:   Purchase Order No. 40SBNT067020:
         Administration of the arpa Top Level Domain

   Dear Mr. Touton:

   As noted in your organization's quotation of February 2, 2000, the
   arpa Top Level Domain (TLD) exists in the root zone of the domain
   name system as a limited use domain currently consisting of one
   record, in-addr.arpa.  On April 14, 2000, the Defense Advanced
   Research Projects Agency (DARPA), formerly known as the Advanced
   Research Projects Agency (ARPA), officially signaled its
   disassociation with the arpa domain and its understanding the domain
   would be used by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names (ICANN)
   and Numbers and the Internet Architecture Board (IAB) for additional
   Internet infrastructure uses.

   In keeping with the DARPA understanding, we believe that the arpa
   domain should be made available for this specific, limited purpose.
   The Department of Commerce considers this an Internet Assigned
   Numbers Authority (IANA) function and has requested that the WHOIS
   entry for the arpa domain reflect IANA as the registrant.

   Purchase Order No. 40SBNT067020 provides that "[ICANN] will perform
   other IANA functions as needed upon request of DOC." As such, the
   Department of Commerce requests that, as part of the IANA functions,
   ICANN undertake administration of the arpa TLD in cooperation with
   the Internet technical community under the guidance of the IAB, as a
   limited use domain for Internet infrastructure applications,
   including the migration of Internet infrastructure applications that
   currently reside in the .int TLD.  Further, as indicated by DARPA,
   the arpa TLD string should be given a different expansion such as
   "Address and Routing Parameter Area" to avoid any implication that
   DARPA has operational responsibility for the domain.

   If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

                              Sincerely, Karen Rose
                              Purchase Order Technical Representative

Martin Kevin              OCM   (202) 418-1000   Kevin.Martin at fcc.gov
Copps Michael             CM-MC (202) 418-2000   Michael.Copps at fcc.gov
Adelstein Jonathan        CM-JA (202) 418-2300   Jonathan.Adelstein at fcc.gov

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