[bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror

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On November 6, 2018 at 14:42 david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu (david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu) wrote:
 > Oceans of blood, all over the place. Yemen, anyone? _Millions_ at the edge. Brought to us by the Iranians’ sworn (blood) enemy, SA, with US armaments. Or, Vietnam, a million dead, just at the hands of the US … for which it got its a.. kicked. Or, the list goes on, truly endlessly. Bad guys all over.

At least the US populace took to the streets by the millions, and
relentlessly, in opposition to the Vietnam war. And the draft
protesters many of whom faced prison time for refusing to go to that
war, etc. The govt reacted by labeling them traitors and "communists"
and often destroying the lives of opposition leaders and others, their
protests weren't without consequence and risk.

Nixon wasn't thrown out of office over that dumb burglary cover-up
(tho that merited it), it was his mishandling of that war which he
swore would be over swiftly when he first ran in 1968 but was still
unresolved when he was tossed out of office in 1974...almost 60,000 US
boys dead, many conscripted, for basically nothing gained, plus as you
note over a million Vietnamese and a horrific collapse of order in
Southeast Asia.

And his predecessor, LBJ, who withdrew his candidacy in 1968 after
losing a major primary (NH) to the anti-war Eugene McCarthy.

It was far from perfect but some credit (to those who opposed the war)
where credit is due.

 > 
 > Therefore – especially – reason to face off bullies early on, before they get truly beyond the pale. The thrust of the Niemoller. In my view anyway.
 > 
 > To do what we may, to damp the cycle of violence. And especially to staunch bullies, everywhere.

There is nothing in history more deadly than tolerating a govt one
should not have tolerated.

 > 
 > David
 > 
 > 
 > > On Nov 6, 2018, at 2:17 PM, bzs at theworld.com wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > > On November 6, 2018 at 11:08 parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) wrote:
 > >> Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate multilateral/
 > >> UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why should people  here
 > >> protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that famous saying, 'First they
 > >> came for the...... '
 > >> 
 > >> parminder
 > > 
 > > There's something startling about referring to a phrase from Niemoller
 > > which is generally associated with the Nazi's extermination of Jews in
 > > defense of Iran's govt which has an enormous amount of Jewish blood on
 > > its hands and wears it proudly. And oceans of Arab blood for that
 > > matter (they do materially support Assad in Syria.)
 > > 
 > > I know, key in the usual nihilistic blather because I suppose one can
 > > always defend any murderous regime by merely making reference to some
 > > other govt one has criticisms of and declaring it all to be in some
 > > sort of sociopathic balance so "fair".
 > > 
 > > Mere financial sanctions against Iran is indicative of a very civil
 > > and civilized treatment of that govt's decades of projected
 > > ruthlessness responsible for the destruction and dissipation of
 > > millions of lives not least of which the Iranian people.
 > > 
 > > -- 
 > >        -Barry Shein
 > > 
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