[bestbits] [governance] End of the year civil society meeting/ briefing

Mon Dec 17 09:26:43 EST 2018

Exactly Bruna, as Arsene has written if a merger BB/IGC happened then at
the CSCG level the new members will discuss to be more inclusive and
receptive to new members.

The reason I'm mentioning it because I don't want the CS misses the
discussion on this issue. I'm in support the inclusion of new CS coalition
that could also be regional coalition and I suggested  the  IGF youth as an
example.
Nothing difficult when there is a well.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:10 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thanks @farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for kickstarting the
> discussion and @Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> for clarifying
> the doubts about the CSCG.
>
> Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important
> for us to stick to what was agreed on the call  which was: CSCG
> representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB
> merger.
>
> I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to
> CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed
> within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC.
>
> best,
> bruna
>
> Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>
>> This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
>> or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
>> welcome as a great idea.
>>
>> The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.
>>
>> 2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
>> > Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
>> > Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
>> > happens.
>> > However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
>> > the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to
>> introduce a
>> > procedures for New CSCG member.
>> > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
>> >
>> > There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
>> > that could be IG for Youth.
>> > I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies
>> the
>> > thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
>> > Best,
>> > Nadira
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
>> >> the time to attend the call.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
>> >> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
>> >> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>> >>
>> >> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
>> >> discussed.
>> >>
>> >> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>> >>
>> >> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
>> >> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
>> >> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>> >>
>> >> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
>> >> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
>> >> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
>> >> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>> >>
>> >> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
>> >> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
>> >> and future will happen.
>> >>
>> >> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
>> >> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Arsene
>> >>
>> >> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> >> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
>> >> > He everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
>> >> > about
>> >> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
>> >> > are
>> >> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three
>> >> > (if
>> >> > possible).
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > -Michael
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
>> >> >> affect
>> >> >> the structure of the
>> >> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG
>> has
>> >> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication
>> Union,
>> >> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
>> >> >> Enhanced
>> >> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
>> >> members
>> >> >> of committees and working groups"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would
>> be
>> >> >> good to look into as well.
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> Nadira
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <
>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Dear all,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
>> >> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with
>> you.
>> >> (I
>> >> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
>> >> >>> there
>> >> >>> was
>> >> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share
>> the
>> >> >>> recording)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
>> >> >>> venues
>> >> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
>> >> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided
>> that
>> >> the
>> >> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
>> >> deadline
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>> >> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool
>> our
>> >> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
>> >> >>> creation
>> >> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision
>> on
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>> >> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good
>> to
>> >> map
>> >> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about
>> that)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum
>> if
>> >> we
>> >> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in
>> our
>> >> >>> efforts.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and
>> civil
>> >> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
>> >> public
>> >> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Farzaneh
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>> >> --
>> >> ------------------------
>> >> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
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>> >>
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>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>> >> >
>> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> >> <
>> >>
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>> >> >
>> >> & Mexico
>> >> <
>> >>
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>> >> >)
>> >> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>> Blogger
>> >> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> >> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>> Fellow
>> >> (
>> >> Mauritius
>> >> <
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>> >> >)*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>> Tel: +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>
>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> <
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>> >
>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>> >
>> & Mexico
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>> >)
>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>> Fellow (
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>> <
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>> >)*
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>
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