[bestbits] [IGFmaglist] Gender Access statistics

Thu Oct 5 14:13:55 EDT 2017

Dear Li

Gender equality is more than a goal in itself. it is a precondition for
meeting the challenge of
reducing poverty, promoting sustainable development and building good
governance.

With the standalone goal for gender equality in the SDGs, goal 5, *Achieve
gender equality and empower all women and girls, *the call to Leave No One
Behind means that gender must also be considered in every thematic area
across all of the 17 goals. I believe all of us including you no this and
as such the importance of data in policy and decision-making.

Data that is both sex disaggregated and gender sensitive, i.e. data that
reflects the gendered nature of society and the different experiences of
women and men, boys and girls, for the entire gender indicator framework is
very important that is more reason why the is the need for us to
collaboratively work together to bridge the gender gap globally.

We all knows the importance of hard evidence data, so I cannot agree with
you that, we are like blind people feeling an elephant, you need to come
again on this.

I believe we all have national statistical departments in our various
countries not excluding China where you got your data from for your
augment; it is this same national data that informs global policy for which
we are all discussing and trying to solve. So to ask a question that MAG
and it secretariat ever did any search and analysis before taking on board
the gender issues is her no there, you need to come back on this because
you are also member of MAG and takes part in decision making. I see you
views very autocratic, if you do not agree on an issue then it shouldn't
apply.

Regards,

*WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
E-government and Open Government Data Platforms Specialist
ICANN Fellow / Member, UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member,
Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member,
OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Memember, ITAG Member
Email: wisdom.dk at gmail.com
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Website: www.data.gov.gh
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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:25 AM, 计颢骏 <ji_haojun at mfa.gov.cn> wrote:

> Dear Chair and all,
>
>         I have no intention to prolong the debate. But I have to say that
> a recognized issue doesn't mean it is really an issue. An issue relevant in
> other UN system or process doesn't mean that it should be an issue in
> internet governance. Even if gender is an issue in the context of IG, we
> should know to what extent it is an issue.And to address the issue, we also
> need to know how, where and why it is an issue. Therefore, data and hard
> evidence is very important,otherwise, we are like blind people feeling an
> elephant. Could a doctor correctly come up with a therapy without knowing
> the symptoms of a patient?    I would like to ask whether MAG and its
> secretariat ever did any data search and analysis before taking on board
> the gender issue? If gender issue in the IG is not access only, then what
> are the other issues related to gender in this context? Do we really know
> what we are talking about?
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         JI Haojun
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- 回复邮件 -----
> *发信人:*Lynn St.Amour <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
> *收信人:*计颢骏 <ji_haojun at mfa.gov.cn>
> *抄  送:*dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>,Governance <
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> *时  间:*2017年10月04日 23时32分30秒
> *主  题:*Re: [IGFmaglist] Gender Access statistics
>
>
> Dear Ji,
>
> Gender issues are much more than just access related. The fact that there
> are many issues regarding gender is very well accepted both inside and and
> outside the UN system and processes.
>
> It is a recognized problem. It does not need another data search before
> concluding that it is a problem.
>
> The MAG formally supported a Best Practice Forum (BPF) on Gender and a
> Main session. All this in addition to several Workshops also being selected
> by the MAG. This is what we (the MAG and community) are all working to
> support. And, will continue to support judging by the many comments on the
> list.
>
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
> > On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:43 AM, 计颢骏 <ji_haojun at mfa.gov.cn> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Chair and all,
> >
> > I am glad to share with you the following data:
> >
> > In 2015, the male/female ratio in China's total population is 51.2:48.8.
> >
> > In 2016, the male/female ratio in China's netizen is 51.3:48.7.
> >
> > It is safe to say that,generally speaking, gender equality on internet
> access is not a problem in China at least, though the statistics may vary
> in different provinces and regions.
> >
> > I am also aware that China's statistics can not represent the whole
> world. Therefore,before we decide whether it is a problem, we need to get
> the relevant global,regional and country specific data first.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > JI Haojun
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- 回复邮件 -----
> > 发信人:Lynn St.Amour <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
> > 收信人:计颢骏 <ji_haojun at mfa.gov.cn>
> > 抄 送:JacsmKee <jac at apcwomen.org>,IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> >,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,Governance <
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>
> > 时 间:2017年09月29日 20时39分10秒
> > 主 题:Re: [IGFmaglist] IGF Best Practice Forum on Gender: Access
> >
> >
> > Dear Ji,
> >
> > your comment below trivializes the very important gender discussion, and
> much of the work of the MAG.
> >
> > Equally, it is important that we maintain a culture of respect in all
> MAG communications, and I hope we can achieve this going forward.
> >
> > Lynn St.Amour
> >
> > IGF-MAG Chair
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 28, 2017, at 9:24 AM, 计颢骏 <ji_haojun at mfa.gov.cn> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I think the access issue,for some countries, shall start from allowing
> women to drive and travel alone first.
> > >
> > > JI Haojun
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- 回复邮件 -----
> > > 发信人:Jac sm Kee <jac at apcwomen.org>
> > > 收信人:Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>,<
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,Governance <
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>
> > > 时 间:2017年09月27日 18时05分01秒
> > > 主 题:[IGFmaglist] IGF Best Practice Forum on Gender: Access
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > > As mentioned in previous meetings, the IGF Best Practice Forum on
> > > Gender this year is looking specifically at access issues faced by:
> > >
> > > a) Indigenous women
> > > b) Refugee women
> > > c) Women with disabilities
> > > d) Young women
> > > e) Rural women
> > >
> > > We are looking for insights and initiatives that you may know of that
> > > addresses these issues directly, or in partial or indrect ways. To help
> > > in this process, we have developed a brief survey here:
> > >
> > > https://www.apc.org/limesurvey/index.php/783797/lang-en
> > >
> > > Please do submit your work into this process, and would appreciate it
> > > if you can share this broadly and in targetted ways to your networks.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > jac
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Jac sm Kee
> > > Manager, Women's Rights Programme
> > > Association for Progressive Communications
> > > www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org
> > > Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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