[bestbits] Fwd: Re: [governance] [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google calls for internationaldigital agreements

Jeremy Malcolm jmalcolm at eff.org
Wed Jul 5 14:23:35 EDT 2017

Also copying to the Best Bits list, because I know we have a number of
members here who choose not to be on the IGC or Just Net lists... and
this seems like a relevant and interesting discussion to have here.

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Subject: 	Re: [governance] [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google
calls for internationaldigital agreements
Date: 	Sun, 2 Jul 2017 15:36:46 +0530
From: 	Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Reply-To: 	Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
To: 	Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org <forum at justnetcoalition.org>
CC: 	governance at lists.igcaucus.org

Hi Parminder, I am copying this also to the IGC list:
Because I am wondering if there is widespread support for developing a
civil society statement supporting these efforts, and urging the
development of (a framework?) (a set of principles?) to deal with these
Although Microsoft is approaching this more from cyberwarfare concerns,
and Google more from lack of standards dealing with surveillance
requests, there is a common ground here which relates to good governance
which supports basic rights when dealing with requests for data for
digital surveillance.
In my own mind I am sure there is a set of good principles/guidelines
which could (and should) be developed which could cover both of these
concerns, and I personally feel that we in civil society should be
supporting and encouraging such developments: while at the same time
helping to set the agenda for what might be appropriate developments.
GCCS2017 might be one event to move this forward: but in the mean time
if we can develop a strong consensus statement welcoming further
discussion and developments in this area, that might be a useful
But others might feel another approach might be more productive?
Ian Peter
*From:* parminder
*Sent:* Saturday, July 1, 2017 6:13 PM
*To:* Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org
*Subject:* [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google calls for
internationaldigital agreements

Microsoft recently called for a cyber geneva convention

Now, Google has called for international agreement on legal access to data.

        "We need international agreements to lay out the rules of the
        road to deal with what is not a hypothetical problem,” said
        Walker. “We are dealing with tens of thousands of these requests
        every year, and we’re just one of the companies wrestling with
        this. We do need an international agreed upon framework to move
        forward in a reliable way that people can have confidence in.”"




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