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Also copying to the Best Bits list, because I know we have a number
of members here who choose not to be on the IGC or Just Net lists...
and this seems like a relevant and interesting discussion to have
here.<br>
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<td>Re: [governance] [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now
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<td>Ian Peter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"><ian.peter@ianpeter.com></a></td>
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<div>Hi Parminder, I am copying this also to the IGC list:</div>
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<div>Because I am wondering if there is widespread support for
developing a civil society statement supporting these
efforts, and urging the development of (a framework?) (a set
of principles?) to deal with these issues?</div>
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<div>Although Microsoft is approaching this more from
cyberwarfare concerns, and Google more from lack of
standards dealing with surveillance requests, there is a
common ground here which relates to good governance which
supports basic rights when dealing with requests for data
for digital surveillance.</div>
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<div>In my own mind I am sure there is a set of good
principles/guidelines which could (and should) be developed
which could cover both of these concerns, and I personally
feel that we in civil society should be supporting and
encouraging such developments: while at the same time
helping to set the agenda for what might be appropriate
developments.</div>
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<div>GCCS2017 might be one event to move this forward: but in
the mean time if we can develop a strong consensus statement
welcoming further discussion and developments in this area,
that might be a useful contribution.</div>
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<div>But others might feel another approach might be more
productive?</div>
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<div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 1, 2017 6:13 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now
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<p><font face="Verdana">Microsoft recently called for a
cyber geneva convention <a
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href="https://www.wired.com/2017/05/microsoft-right-need-digital-geneva-convention/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.wired.com/2017/05/microsoft-right-need-digital-geneva-convention/</a>
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<p><font face="Verdana">Now, Google has called for
international agreement on legal access to data. </font><br>
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LINE-HEIGHT: 100%"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">"We
need international agreements to lay out the rules
of the road to deal with what is not a hypothetical
problem,” said Walker. “We are dealing with tens of
thousands of these requests every year, and we’re
just one of the companies wrestling with this. We do
need an international agreed upon framework to move
forward in a reliable way that people can have
confidence in.”"</font></p>
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