[bestbits] [governance] Remarks at UNESCO Closing Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots Conference"

[parminder]

On Thursday 05 March 2015 02:05 PM, David Cake wrote:
>
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:39 am, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>> .The fact that some  'civil society' persons sided with US and its 
>> allies (who as the key power-holders in the global IG realm have 
>> their obvious reasons) to do so indeed makes it a sad day for public 
>> interest advocacy.... parminder
>
> I really find some civil society persons siding with Russia and the 
> KSA on some issues to be a bigger long term concern for support of 
> democracy within civil society, but perhaps that is just me.

David, I am more that ready for an honest debate, but here you are 
cutting some part of an email and making an unconnected case out of it. 
The main point in my email was not 'siding with US' but 'siding with US 
to resist inclusion of 'democracy' in the UNESCO document', which I 
indeed consider nothing less than scandalous . Now, on the 'democracy' 
part, if you have any views please share them, and if any questions, I 
am happy to answer.

I do not know what and whom you refer to in talking about siding with 
Russia (will you like to be explicit). Meanwhile, I will greatly protest 
anyone siding with Russia to condone, say violence against journalists, 
or arbitrarily shutting down websites - both of which happen a lot in 
Russia. However, Id be happy to side with Russia to resist US and its 
corporation's hegemony over the global Internet. Similarly, I'd very 
happily side with US on spreading globally its new found enthusiasm for 
net neutrality and community broadband as national level best practices.

parminder
> Regards
>
> David
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>>> Behalf Of*Jeremy Malcolm
>>> *Sent:*March 4, 2015 7:42 AM
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>>> *Cc:*Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC; Nnenna 
>>> Nwakanma;<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [bestbits] [governance] Remarks at UNESCO Closing 
>>> Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots Conference"
>>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org 
>>> <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>> wrote:
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>>>     You’re right, but you can nevertheless thank UNESCO for the
>>>     opportunity to participate on a multi-stakeholder basis and
>>>     acknowledge that the outcome document is a lot richer than it
>>>     would otherwise have been because of this.
>>>
>>> Also, please clarify that the Just Net Coalition does NOT represent 
>>> all of civil society.  This given that Richard Hill on behalf of the 
>>> coalition has just disrupted the meeting with a formal objection to 
>>> the document due to its omission to qualify references to 
>>> multi-stakeholderism with “democratic” (which he incorrectly stated 
>>> was not objected to during the last drafting session), and its 
>>> omission to include a reference to the International Covenant on 
>>> Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.  Other than his objection, the 
>>> document was adopted by the meeting by consensus.
>>> -- 
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