[bestbits] [governance] Whose lives are we helping, anyway? WAS Re: Remarks at UNESCO Closing Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots Conference"

[George Sadowsky]

This list is drifting back into terminology arguments, yet again.

Let me pick up a paragraph from Nick's prior post and pose a couple of questions.  First, here is his earlier text:

> I beg you all - think about the bigger picture. I have seen a great deal of arguing over words but almost no debate about how to ensure the next decade of WSIS is more focussed on improving the lives of real people and truly bridging the digital divide - in every sense of the word.

So here are the questions: 

1. What advances and/or changes in 'Internet governance,' at any level, are likely in the short and medium run to improve the lives of people in terms of their economic and social well-being?

2. What are the institutions well positioned to help make these advances?  Do we have adequate institutions to do the job?  What is lacking, if anything, in terms of resources, organization, or coordination?

3. Are these the right questions to be asking?  What other questions are directly relevant to improving peoples' economic and social well-being?

George

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On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at consensus.pro> wrote:

> Clearly the point is being missed here.
> 
> "Internet Governance" as a phrase in international policy is a creature of WSIS.
> 
> On 9 Mar 2015, at 18:15, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> 
>> Oh well.. There was also the internet ad hoc council pre icann that included Bob Shaw (now retired from ITU) and that first met in Geneva
>> 
>> That was when ITU had a rather more constructive role to play than it tends to do now (and Bob was responsible for the wsis action like c5 open consultations at ITU Geneva back in 2007-08, I believe a substantial cross section of this caucus was there, all with access to flags) 
>> On March 9, 2015 10:41:29 PM "Bill Woodcock" <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:06, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at consensus.pro> wrote:
>>> The source of all of IG is WSIS.
>>> 
>>> Uh...  How old are you?  How do you think the Internet was governed for the 35 years prior to the ITU having heard about it ?
>>>     
>>>                 -Bill
>>> 
>>> 
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