<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">This list is drifting back into terminology arguments, yet again.<div><br></div><div>Let me pick up a paragraph from Nick's prior post and pose a couple of questions. First, here is his earlier text:</div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 11px;">I beg you all - think about the bigger picture. I have seen a great deal of arguing over words but almost no debate about how to ensure the next decade of WSIS is more focussed on improving the lives of real people and truly bridging the digital divide - in every sense of the word.</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 11px;"></div></blockquote><div><br><div><div>So here are the questions: </div><div><br></div><div>1. What advances and/or changes in 'Internet governance,' at any level, are likely in the short and medium run to improve the lives of people in terms of their economic and social well-being?</div><div><br></div><div>2. What are the institutions well positioned to help make these advances? Do we have adequate institutions to do the job? What is lacking, if anything, in terms of resources, organization, or coordination?</div><div><br></div><div>3. Are these the right questions to be asking? What other questions are directly relevant to improving peoples' economic and social well-being?</div><div><br></div><div>George</div><div><br></div><div>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div><div><br></div><div>On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <<a href="mailto:nashton@consensus.pro">nashton@consensus.pro</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Clearly the point is being missed here.<div><br></div><div>"Internet Governance" as a phrase in international policy is a creature of WSIS.</div><div>
<br><div><div>On 9 Mar 2015, at 18:15, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div style=""><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;">Oh well.. There was also the
internet ad hoc council pre icann that included Bob Shaw (now retired from
ITU) and that first met in Geneva </p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;">That was when ITU had a rather
more constructive role to play than it tends to do now (and Bob was
responsible for the wsis action like c5 open consultations at ITU Geneva
back in 2007-08, I believe a substantial cross section of this caucus was
there, all with access to flags) <br>
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<div style=""><p style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 10pt 0px;">On
March 9, 2015 10:41:29 PM "Bill Woodcock" <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net">woody@pch.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;"><div><br><font><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On
Mar 9, 2015, at 10:06, Nick Ashton-Hart <<a href="mailto:nashton@consensus.pro">nashton@consensus.pro</a>>
wrote:<br>The source of all of IG is
WSIS.</span></font><div><br></div>Uh... How old are you? How do
you think the Internet was governed for the 35 years prior to the ITU
having heard about it
?<br> <div>
-Bill</div><div><br></div></div><div><br><br></div>
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