[bestbits] IGF open consultation and MAG meeting December 2014

[Stephanie Perrin]

Great Idea Anriette, I agree, this is not only sometimes successful, but 
shows organization and persistence.   You can make it sound like the 
forward to an OECD Guideline, could be fun!
Stephanie
On 14-09-25 5:32 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think this is a great idea.
> And once done it will be something we can build on. And generate
> comments from with greater ease.
>
> I.e  something like
>
>
> Recalling the comment made in 2012 <url>
> and the comment made in 2013 <url>
>
> acknowledging the smidgeon done in 2013 <url>
>
> we again recommend ...
>
> avri
>
>
> On 25-Sep-14 15:47, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>> Dear Jeremy
>>
>> It is not  simply a case of these comments being ignored. The problem is
>> that there is not structure that can effectively evaluate them and
>> implement them.
>>
>> Some suggestions have eventually found their way into some form of
>> implementation. The more 'practical' they are the more likely that the
>> Secretariat will do what they can to follow up. The more political and
>> strategic they are, the more complex and as the MAG tends to work on
>> consensus suggestions where different stakeholders have different views
>> (e.g. on the IGF making policy recommendations) are likely to go nowhere.
>>
>> Also I have learnt - and it has really taken me years - that in the UN
>> system, and in policy advocacy in general, asking for the same things
>> year after year actually often works in the long run.  Civil society has
>> had in my view the clearest vision of what the IGF needs since its onset
>> (e.g. working groups, thematic IGFs, outcomes, inter-institutional
>> dialogue, support for participation, new approach to main sessions, etc.
>> etc.)
>>
>> Why don't we do a stocktake of all our recommendations since the
>> beginning and resubmit those that that we can agree on  as important? It
>> will also be good in that we can see where we have been successful, or
>> partly successful. E.g. Best Bits asked for IG principles in 2012. We
>> now have them in the form of the NETmundial statement - and it is a set
>> of principles that draws extensively on our own work in the IRP dynamic
>> coalition.  What next?
>>
>> Anriette
>>
>>
>> On 25/09/2014 18:33, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>> On 25/09/2014 2:32 am, William Drake wrote:
>>>> 4)  Strengthening the IGF, consistent with the NETmundial statement.
>>>>   Intersessional work to prepare a topic or two that is ‘mature’
>>>> enough to yield some measure of convergence and could be treated for
>>>> one day in the NM manner could be a very useful way to demonstrate
>>>> the increasing utility of the IGF to the UNGA and others.  There are
>>>> various ideas about how this might be done, and it’d be great to see
>>>> some of them in submissions.
>>> Agreed, but it's not as if these ideas have not already been put
>>> forward ad infinitum over previous years. Consider this Best Bits
>>> submission from 2013, which remains equally relevant today:
>>>
>>> http://bestbits.net/igf-opinions/
>>>
>>> (and a follow-up from 2014, http://bestbits.net/igf-2014-submission/).
>>>
>>> The problem is that the suggestions are just ignored.  Of course, it
>>> won't stop us from making them again...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Jeremy Malcolm
>>> Senior Global Policy Analyst
>>> Electronic Frontier Foundation
>>> https://eff.org
>>> jmalcolm at eff.org
>>>
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