[bestbits] IGF open consultation and MAG meeting December 2014

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Thu Sep 25 17:32:37 EDT 2014


Hi,

I think this is a great idea.
And once done it will be something we can build on. And generate
comments from with greater ease.

I.e  something like


Recalling the comment made in 2012 <url>
and the comment made in 2013 <url>

acknowledging the smidgeon done in 2013 <url>

we again recommend ...

avri


On 25-Sep-14 15:47, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Dear Jeremy
> 
> It is not  simply a case of these comments being ignored. The problem is
> that there is not structure that can effectively evaluate them and
> implement them.
> 
> Some suggestions have eventually found their way into some form of
> implementation. The more 'practical' they are the more likely that the
> Secretariat will do what they can to follow up. The more political and
> strategic they are, the more complex and as the MAG tends to work on
> consensus suggestions where different stakeholders have different views
> (e.g. on the IGF making policy recommendations) are likely to go nowhere.
> 
> Also I have learnt - and it has really taken me years - that in the UN
> system, and in policy advocacy in general, asking for the same things
> year after year actually often works in the long run.  Civil society has
> had in my view the clearest vision of what the IGF needs since its onset
> (e.g. working groups, thematic IGFs, outcomes, inter-institutional
> dialogue, support for participation, new approach to main sessions, etc.
> etc.)
> 
> Why don't we do a stocktake of all our recommendations since the
> beginning and resubmit those that that we can agree on  as important? It
> will also be good in that we can see where we have been successful, or
> partly successful. E.g. Best Bits asked for IG principles in 2012. We
> now have them in the form of the NETmundial statement - and it is a set
> of principles that draws extensively on our own work in the IRP dynamic
> coalition.  What next?
> 
> Anriette
> 
> 
> On 25/09/2014 18:33, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>> On 25/09/2014 2:32 am, William Drake wrote:
>>> 4)  Strengthening the IGF, consistent with the NETmundial statement.
>>>  Intersessional work to prepare a topic or two that is ‘mature’
>>> enough to yield some measure of convergence and could be treated for
>>> one day in the NM manner could be a very useful way to demonstrate
>>> the increasing utility of the IGF to the UNGA and others.  There are
>>> various ideas about how this might be done, and it’d be great to see
>>> some of them in submissions.
>>
>> Agreed, but it's not as if these ideas have not already been put
>> forward ad infinitum over previous years. Consider this Best Bits
>> submission from 2013, which remains equally relevant today:
>>
>> http://bestbits.net/igf-opinions/
>>
>> (and a follow-up from 2014, http://bestbits.net/igf-2014-submission/).
>>
>> The problem is that the suggestions are just ignored.  Of course, it
>> won't stop us from making them again...
>>
>> -- 
>> Jeremy Malcolm
>> Senior Global Policy Analyst
>> Electronic Frontier Foundation
>> https://eff.org
>> jmalcolm at eff.org
>>
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