[bestbits] [governance] Internet-related Issues at PP-14

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Oct 31 11:50:12 EDT 2014


+1  This is an extremely important consumer protection issue.  I would 
also note that it has the side effect of obliterating *their *IP 
rights.  My, what a complicated world we live in.
Stephanie Perrin
On 14-10-31 5:57 AM, David Cake wrote:
> I agree with Parminder. I would go further in that I'm not keen on 
> this being applied to telephones either (which could arguably outlaw 
> devices that can change IMEI. Very glad to hear the 'unauthorized' 
> language has been dropped, but still find it quite problematic.
>
> And counterfeit is, as Parminder says, problematic enough. We've just 
> seen a big issue in which a Windows Update was used to deliver an FTDI 
> driver (a chip used in many simple USB peripherals) was delivered that 
> 'bricked' counterfeit chips. While I wouldn't argue against use of IP 
> law to stop counterfeiting (without wishing to dip into that complex 
> issue), the idea that if a device is counterfeit is permissable to 
> attempt to effectively destroy end users private property is 
> outrageous. We need to stop that kind of thinking, that manufacturers 
> intellectual property rights trump consumer rights and property rights.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Oct 2014, at 2:01 pm, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ujwala
>>
>> I think one of the important issue right now is possible addition of 
>> "unauthorised" to "counterfeit" devices (which is bad enough) in 
>> draft new resolution on counterfeit devices.
>>
>> It is almost catastrophic wrt FoE and freedom of innovation if every 
>> single device that has to ever employ IP based connectivity has to be 
>> "authorised". What worked for telephones cannot in the same way work 
>> in a pervasive IP environment where the possibilities of devices, 
>> applications etc is near limitless, and one should be able to , as 
>> they say, 'innovate at the edges'.
>>
>> Hope this can be stopped somehow.
>>
>> On a different note, you have referred two commentaries on the India 
>> proposal. If you also link my email on the subject which is at 
>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/governance/2014-10/msg00229.html the 
>> commentaries would perhaps be more balanced..
>>
>> Thanks for this excellent work and reference
>> parminder
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday 31 October 2014 11:03 AM, Ujwala Uppaluri wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> CCG has a list of Internet related issues to watch at Plenipot here 
>>> <http://ccgnludelhi.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/india-and-the-internet-at-pp-14/>.
>>>
>>> Do let us know if there's anything significant missing.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Ujwala
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ujwala Uppaluri | Research Fellow
>>> Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi 
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