[bestbits] [governance] Whether to participate in NETmundial Initiative - RFC

[Francisco Vera Hott]

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These past 2-3 days we have been surrounding this discussion over
whether to participate in NETmundial initiative, in this and other
threads (which I will not refer).

It is clear that the idea of participating on the NetMundial
initiative remains conflicting or doubtful for many list members, for
different reasons, such as the WEF role, the participation of Civil
Society, the permanent seats, or the "UN Security Council" arguments.

Whatever it is, I haven't (or failed to) seen yet an assessment of the
need for such initiative. I don't see an Internet Governance
forums/venues/initiatives shortage anytime soon, and more and more
platform, mailing lists and many other initiatives can be useful but
also distracting for the limited resources that civil society (and
other stakeholders) has.

Decentralizing the debate is OK, but this is becoming more and more
overwhelming and, thus, impossible to follow or over demanding for
many organizations.

This NMI could also be an opportunity for civil society but given
ISOC, ICANN and other's positioning, it is also a matter of validation
and legitimacy, so civil society participation is equally important
for both parties, not precisely a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Finally, I've read some comments on democracy and social justice and
while I have sympathy for those values, civil society doesn't exercise
political representation nor have or should have a common agenda
regarding all social values. It is just as strong as its positions and
integrity.

Best,
Francisco Vera Hott
Human Rights Lawyer

El 21-11-14 a las 15:18, "João Carlos R. Caribé" escribió:
> NMI published a new statement answering some questions 
> https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/netmundial-initiative-answers-common-questions
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Em 20/11/2014, às 22:29, JFC Morfin escreveu:
> 
>> 
>>>>> A WEF-ICANN alliance, even if backed by the Brazilian
>>>>> government, is just not the place I want to see emerge as a
>>>>> new power centre in Internet governance - even less so as
>>>>> they have already given themselves some fixed seats.
>> 
>> Please reread my mails of the time. Do you really think a few
>> Civil Society activists and non-architect engineers from the IETF
>> would reshape the world alone. There is only one way to lead the
>> world: power and force. However, you do not want to manage to get
>> it.
>> 
>> Force is a better technology. This means competent, innovative,
>> experienced work. Power is that technology to be used. This means
>> political cooperation or financial support.
>> 
>> As long as you do not want Libre, you do not want Govs and you do
>> not want WEF, you can keep moaning.
>> 
>> The situation is simple. It has not changed since August 22, 2012
>> (RFC 6852, IEEE, IAB, IETF, ISOC, W3C declaration). Either we
>> stay with the old non-secure IETF technology that ICANN,
>> Rosettanet, BRICS and WEF can do with. Or we rebuild a "secure
>> internet" as partly demanded by IAB through a Libre/Civil Society
>> coalition - not necessarily under the NSA/USCC.
>> 
>> Our interest is NOT to dispute political ideas, not to arbitrate
>> between ICANN/WEF and ISOC/IETF. Our interest is to intelligently
>> look at our own IUsers interests. i.e. for a fail-safe plan four
>> our net
>> 
>> jfc
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