[bestbits] emails to Adiel

Wed Jan 8 11:38:24 EST 2014

I heard Fadi was going. Besides that, nothing else. So, I do hope they
clarify. Glaser has also stopped answering our emails.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global
Journal <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your email Carolina, in a few lines you bring a lot of
> information.
>
> It gives a rather grim perspective over the Brazilian conference.
>
> Do you confirm that the ICANN's CEO is joining the logistic meeting on Jan
> 10? Is Dilma Rousseff or any Brazilian Minister joining the so-called fork
> and knives discussion too (just kidding!)?
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> Le 8 janv. 2014 à 16:22, Carolina Rossini a écrit :
>
> No problem for your words Parminder. I know there is a lot of frustration
> going on. But I have to secure you that ALL we know and ALL we have
> learned, we DID communicated to the list. Everything else, we simply did
> not know. And as soon as we learned (like, CGI wanting to channel
> communications through 1Net), we communicated immediately. So, I learned
> that yesterday and I communicated that yesterday. I learned that Adiel was
> going to Brazil yesterday or the day before and than I communicated (and
> then he negated, and then I asked again, and then folks said..."oh, Fadi is
> coming". And then I sent your email with the letter of the Liasons to
> Fadi).
> :-)
> So, I promise to you parminder, that we know as much as you. And I also
> can tell you that CGI has been less transparency that we all would expect.
> We are actually pressuring the CS board members of CGI to get more involved
> (not all of them are), so we know better what is going on. Some folks in
> the government simply do not answer our emails anymore. When the 1net list
> was formed, Joana and I were alternating on reporting back to the lists
> week by week. But as soon as 1Net was open to all, we stopped that, since
> it seems all of you are also in that list.
> So, I agree with you in the need of transparency and reporting. And I
> assure you, if we are not sending news, it is because we do not have any.
> But rest assure that we are trying...everyday.
> hugs
> C
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> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:46 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
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>> On Tuesday 07 January 2014 10:26 PM, Carolina Rossini wrote:
>>
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> Adiel will be the person in the meeting in Brazil on January 10th. Folks
>> in Brazil want this "1Net" fictional entity to filter ALL conversations
>> with CGI.
>>
>>
>> Carolina
>>
>> Your description of 1Net and its role as seen by LOG is interesting. The
>> point is; does civil society agree to this arrangement - of 1Net filtering
>> all conversations with CGI... or have we simply become a pushover
>> (willing?) for the powerful to make deals among themselves. That would be
>> such a shame, and I have begun to get this feeling that we are fast getting
>> there if not already there.
>>
>> *Do we want to write to LOG/ CGI that this arrangement is not acceptable
>> to us? I request that list members give their response to this. *
>>
>> That reminds me: at Bali, this issue was much discussed and four
>> prominent civil society groups (IGC, BB, APC and IRP) together agreed that,
>> no this arrangement is not acceptable to us (Please let me know if this is
>> *not* what people thing got agreed) and decided to send a letter to
>> Brazilians to the effect, and also putting forward 4 CS Liaisons, who were
>> requested to be invited to all meetings related to organising the Brazil
>> meeting. (Quite inexplicably though the drafting and sending of the letter
>> got highly delayed even after this decision.)
>>
>> Caroline, you, and Joana and Laura were 3 liaisons . Why did you not keep
>> us posted about what was happening in Brazil... Did you insist that you be
>> invited to all meetings? If so, what was their response? Why did you not
>> share their response with all of us? Why when, while such is in any case
>> the duty of any CS rep, the letter clearly said that the Liaisons will keep
>> CS groups posted about developments. However, whereas much has happened
>> since that time, I dont remember a single report by the liaisons to us.
>> Carlos used to report but then he had to drop out since he was made a
>> member of LOG. But what about the three of you?
>>
>> When after the last LOG meeting, we got the bombshell that it has been
>> officially decided that 1Net will as you say 'filter ALL conversations with
>> CGI' I wrote repeatedly to this list requesting CS Liaisons to bring us to
>> speed about what is happening. In fact, even Ian (and I think Jeremy) asked
>> for some information about what was happening. But NONE of you responded to
>> any of our requests....
>>
>> I think. sorry for my words, but this is about  a public duty, and
>> seeking accountability about it,  this is a clear abdication of the role
>> that you all were given as CS reps... I am sure there must be an
>> explanation of this somewhere, in which case please do share it.
>>
>> Thanks, parminder
>>
>>
>>
>>  So, it is better to write to Adiel, not just to CGI. Here is Adiel
>> email if you prefer to do so: Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Carol (in my personal capacity) *
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