[bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC

Carolina Rossini carolina.rossini at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 11:50:04 EST 2014


What do you mean? The website netmundial.org  is open for suggestions.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> Hi Carolina,
>
> Could you recommend the key principles statements we might consider.
>
> Jeremy drew up a list: <
> http://bestbits.net/wiki/main/statements-of-internet-rights-and-principles/
> >
>
> Add President Rousseff's speech to the UN GA <
> http://gadebate.un.org/sites/default/files/gastatements/68/BR_en.pdf> and
> also the UN "right to privacy in the digital age" (based on the
> Brazil+German draft, copy attached).
>
> Necessary and proportionate <https://en.necessaryandproportionate.org/text>
> and Carl Bildt's Seoul cyber conf speech <
> http://www.government.se/sb/d/17281/a/226592>, both spoken highly of in
> Bali.
>
> Marco Civil should be consider if it passes and if Brazil wants it there.
>  Community informatics statement <
> http://cirn.wikispaces.com/An+Internet+for+the+Common+Good+-+Engagement%2C+Empowerment%2C+and+Justice+for+All>
> (though  I think a bit aspirational).
>
> Is that it, what am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 1:02 AM, Carolina Rossini wrote:
>
> > - He did not mentioned specific dates for the reports, but he said they
> are almost done.
> > - I did understand that when he was saying "governance principles" they
> would be process focus principles. So transparency, multistakeholder, etc
> would be discussed, but net neutrality and things alike would not (But
> remember, Fadi impressions have diverged in the past from those of the
> Brazilian officials). Maybe this is something that should be clarified by
> the committees. At the end the statement "crafting internet principles" is
> not that clear (to say the least)
> > - yes, he did agree HR should be the broader framework for all this
> > - I was in a meeting yesterday with folks of the Necessary and
> Proportionate coalition, and I specifically suggested Katitza (EFF), Jochai
> (Access) and Mathew (CDT) to submit through the site the N and P
> principles...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Carol.
> > This part brought my attention:
> >
> > "Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but principles of
> governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days."
> >
> > +
> > The addition you guys made on Human Rights and he agreed.
> >
> > I wonder what is the understanding...is it that there wouldnt be space
> to debate specific  principles such as necessary and proportionate?
> >
> > Do we have a date for Vint's report?
> >
> >
> > On 29 Jan 2014 13:56, "Carolina Rossini" <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Well, it seems he will growth on his position until this group of social
> responsability figures out their next steps, but we can clarify
> >
> > Chirs is also moving to DC.
> >
> > No bigger context to the meeting besides dialogue. They just called
> folks from civil society and think tanks in DC to meet, since Fadi was here
> to speak at STON
> >
> > C.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rafik <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi Carolina,
> >
> > Thanks for those notes and updates and what was the context of this
> meeting?
> > Btw Chris mondini main task is to engage business, there is no  specific
> staff for civil society :).
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 30 Jan 2014 à 00:10, Carolina <carolina.rossini at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> >> And an important addition, Brett and I brought it up that Human Rights
> framework should be a core issue to be considered as a base for any
> principle setting moving forward and Fadi agreed and reinforced it.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Carolina Rossini <
> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> here my notes from what Fadi talked about this morning here in DC. I
> tried to capture as much as I could his own words. But this are my notes.
> >>>
> >>> They also mentioned new websites:
> >>> * learn.icann.org
> >>> * labs.icann.org
> >>> * new.icann.org
> >>>
> >>> And for contact: Chris Mondini <chris.mondini at icann.org>
> >>>
> >>> Brett from Access was also in the meeting, so he may have
> complementary notes.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Carol
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "This is our first gathering of the DC ICANN office.
> >>>
> >>> Snowden, good or bad, brought the topic of "who run the internet" up
> in the agenda of countries around the world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Fadi is 1 1/2 in. Mandates are of 3 years.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The openness for ICANN is crucial for our mission.  ICANN is a very
> western centric organization, based on its staff and posture.  3 centers.
> They have implemented Sales Force CRM across the offices to ensure
> questions are answered. ICANN is also creating "engagement centers" around
> the world. Montevideo, Beijing, Geneva, Cairo. Building centers of
> excellence, such as in Delhi and another to come in Africa on youth and
> entrepreneurship and a possible 3rd one in Russia.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Ensuring that ICANN is ready to face the responsibilities it has at
> the global level."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wants ICANN to be an example of multistakeholderism and openness.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ICANN is rooted in the pubic interest. Some view may diverge. I am
> think this is we have not acted > he appointed a full time president of
> public responsibility > one of the key elements is education. How to use
> that money in the public interest. This president brought a panel to help
> him develop this strategy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> An academic meeting in August as a follow-up.  Friday and Saturday in
> Rio. Fadi also wants to do the same with civil society in November. Fadi
> affirms he can help with platform and costs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Civil society representatives need more strength - ICANN can support
> costs of travel. We have a 133 countries siting at the table and showing at
> every meeting. They are on "equal" footing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but principles of
> governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> PHASES: Design (the internet ecosystem which will work, this effort
> should end in the Brazil meeting) (hopefully this will be shown as a
> picture. This is a high level document. 10pgs), engineer (this is a second
> phase and it will start in early may and go through the end of the year.
> Take the high level design and develop how it will work. Joi Ito, Novack,
> etc. This needs to give me something that is operationalizable.), operation
> (execution of the plan).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Fadi are bringing the pieces to create a complex regime that is new,
> synchronized with the nation-state model. We are in a race to ensure that
> the head of states
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IANA: this was a discussion where only small rooms that US controls
> the Internet. Fadi discussed with his board that ICANN should take the
> oversight from US. It was always know that this was just a matter of time.
> Fadi and his board agreed that ICANN is ready to overtake that function and
> have the public discussion about it. We have strategy panels, one led by
> Vincent Cerf, who is about to release its report saying ICANN is mature
> enough. The question is all about if ICANN is mature enough ... and we need a
> mature civil society. I was invited for the Best Bits meeting and it was a
> great truth meeting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> He wants us to be sure we all are mature enough to assume all
> functions. And for this to happen Fadi feels we need more and stronger
> civil society. But the stakeholders need engage and be mature, so no other
> country (or all of them) take control of the IANA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We are planning the creation of governance networks. How we would come
> together and for a certain issue could include A + B + C. they are dynamic,
> hopefully effective and the involved may vary based on the need.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> March 1st is the deadline for submissions for Brazil mtg in the
> website"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Carolina Rossini
> >>> Project Director, Latin America Resource Center
> >>> Open Technology Institute
> >>> New America Foundation
> >>> //
> >>> http://carolinarossini.net/
> >>> + 1 6176979389
> >>> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com*
> >>> skype: carolrossini
> >>> @carolinarossini
> >>>
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> > New America Foundation
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Open Technology Institute
*New America Foundation*
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