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[Gene Kimmelman]

I think it would be appropriate for CS groups to consider necessary reforms
of OECD taking into account the broad impact OECD internet policy
principles may have globally; and to consider how CSISAC could be a more
effective voice for global CS interests within the OECD structure (or maybe
even outside it?).  I'm not sure where this fits in our agenda, but it
certainly is an important aspect of global power leveraging that impacts
many global policy deliberations.


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:51 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

>
> On Thursday 05 September 2013 07:59 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
>> On 04/09/2013, at 9:51 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Yeah, i was told updating the web site was a priority when i asked about
>>> it over a year ago.  I think there is a secretariat that has this on its
>>> task list.
>>>
>>> I beleive it would be good for someone that understood what was going
>>> on, and perhaps was in the CSISAC leadership (I think we have one) would
>>> input into these discussions.
>>>
>>
>> That someone might be me (I'm on the CSISAC steering committee), and yes,
>> I am already firmly making the point that the OECD's Internet Policy
>> Principles are not democratically legitimate, to the working group that is
>> discussing their outreach.
>>
>
> Jeremy,
>
> The structural facts about OECD's and its policy Internet making are
>
> (1) Things like 'Internet Policy Making Principles" are developed, along
> with simultaneous suppression of similar possible activity at globally
> democratic forums, with the precise intention of their global application.
> Internet being largely a global thing, in default of any other set of
> principles, these OECD principles automatically become the global law.
> There is nothing you can do about it just through internal persuasion. This
> 'structural fact' has to be addressed from the outside. Unfortunately,
> civil society becomes complicit in this 'problem- by supporting OECD in
> developing these policy frameworks, and, even worse, also then supporting
> its member countries in suppressing development of similar frameworks or
> principles through very similar processes (only, inclusive of all
> countries).
>
> (2) These Principles and other OECD outputs are already being pushed in bi
> lateral and pluri lateral forums - including the forthcoming Seoul Cyber
> conference, which will selectively include some developing countries as
> well. It would be used on the Trans Atlantic trade talks and possible in
> the Trans-Pacific Partnership and so on. There is nothing you can do to
> convince OECD not to push these principles, they being written with that
> intention.
>
> (3) And of course, OECD cannot be made democratic. Making it globally
> democratic would mean including all countries - all at a time, or by
> rotation with fixed quota from regions - which will make it exactly the
> proposed UN CIRP that so many of you instinctively pull away from as
> something almost devious. (No, not you Jeremy, I know).
>
>    There are things that I'm not allowed to share from what goes on at the
>> OECD (yay transparency), but let me know if you would like more information
>> on the state of this.
>>
>
> But perhaps we are allowed to tell OECD that they should be at least be as
> transparent and stakeholder inclusive as they/ BB tells ITU and WSIS to be.
>
>>
>> I'm also on the Consumer Policy Committee which is working on policy
>> recommendations on digital content products, and mobile and online
>> payments.  Also happy to link people in with that, if they are interested.
>>
>
> This is not about inputting into OECD's work. This is about engaging with
> and commenting on some very important structural facts and processes of
> global Internet policy making. The appropriate forum for doing so is a
> global civil society forum and not an advisory committee attached to the
> particular process, which could of course also make helpful noises.
>
> parminder
>
>
>
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