[bestbits] IGF plus

[michael gurstein]

Anja and all,

 

In the absence of alternative sets of principles with any degree of broad
based support and given the political, economic and technology signifiicance
of the OECD countries any position on something as significant as this
cannot/should not be ignored and particularly by a CS concerned with global
developments.

 

M

 

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To: Jeremy Malcolm
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Subject: Re: [bestbits] IGF plus

 

For those not living in a member state of the OECD, that process is not
necessarily one they would like get involved in though, as that will only
help to give credence to claims that the OECD principles are 'global' ones. 

Which is one of the main reason swhy building a unified approach on this at
the next BB meeting will likely be difficult: different groups and
individuals just look at that process in radically different ways. I agree
that more discussion would be valuable in fact (and would be very eager to
get more regular updates from those who are involved), but don't think that
at present, the Best Bits meeting is the best place to do so.

FYI: the Internet Democracy Project does not consider the OECD or its
principles as global in nature, and whenever such a claim is made, we oppose
this explicitly (as we do when similar references are made to the Budapest
convention).

Best,
Anja

 

On 4 September 2013 17:51, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:

On 04/09/2013, at 9:13 PM, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:





That was indeed what I had in mind, Anriette, as well as linking more
theoretical discussions or discussions of principles (which we do need to
have at times) to these specific mechanisms we are developing and/or
engaging in.

 

And that is the problem with the OECD: it is much less clear to me how we
can make this particular discussion a concrete and outcome oriented one. I
have seen the debate about the OECD play out on various lists (even if
without resolution, I think a discussion has been had), and don't yet see
where there could be common ground to move forward among the varous stances
that seem to exist on the OECD. 

If there are any proposals in this regard, I would of course be happy to
hear them.

 

The OECD has a rather dense set of process of its own, which are covered a
different coalition, viz. CSISAC (though there is significant cross
membership with Best Bits).  It is hard to simply "dip your toes" into what
goes on at the OECD, and I don't suggest we try to do so.  However better
reporting from CSISAC to its own members and broader civil society is
definitely needed (its website is two years out of date, to start with), and
something that we are trying to make happen.  As always, resource
constraints apply.

 

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