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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anja and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the absence of alternative sets of principles with any degree of broad based support and given the political, economic and technology signifiicance of the OECD countries any position on something as significant as this cannot/should not be ignored and particularly by a CS concerned with global developments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anja Kovacs<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Malcolm<br><b>Cc:</b> Andrew Puddephatt; anriette@apc.org; Valeria Betancourt; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net Bits<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] IGF plus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>For those not living in a member state of the OECD, that process is not necessarily one they would like get involved in though, as that will only help to give credence to claims that the OECD principles are 'global' ones. <br><br>Which is one of the main reason swhy building a unified approach on this at the next BB meeting will likely be difficult: different groups and individuals just look at that process in radically different ways. I agree that more discussion would be valuable in fact (and would be very eager to get more regular updates from those who are involved), but don't think that at present, the Best Bits meeting is the best place to do so.<br><br>FYI: the Internet Democracy Project does not consider the OECD or its principles as global in nature, and whenever such a claim is made, we oppose this explicitly (as we do when similar references are made to the Budapest convention).<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<br>Anja<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4 September 2013 17:51, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 04/09/2013, at 9:13 PM, Anja Kovacs <<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was indeed what I had in mind, Anriette, as well as linking more theoretical discussions or discussions of principles (which we do need to have at times) to these specific mechanisms we are developing and/or engaging in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And that is the problem with the OECD: it is much less clear to me how we can make this particular discussion a concrete and outcome oriented one. I have seen the debate about the OECD play out on various lists (even if without resolution, I think a discussion has been had), and don't yet see where there could be common ground to move forward among the varous stances that seem to exist on the OECD. <br><br>If there are any proposals in this regard, I would of course be happy to hear them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The OECD has a rather dense set of process of its own, which are covered a different coalition, viz. CSISAC (though there is significant cross membership with Best Bits). It is hard to simply "dip your toes" into what goes on at the OECD, and I don't suggest we try to do so. However better reporting from CSISAC to its own members and broader civil society is definitely needed (its website is two years out of date, to start with), and something that we are trying to make happen. As always, resource constraints apply.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Dr Jeremy Malcolm<br>Senior Policy Officer<br>Consumers International | the global campaigning voice for consumers</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East<br>Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br>Tel: +60 3 7726 1599<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Explore our new Resource Zone - the global consumer movement knowledge hub |<a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/news-and-media/resource-zone" target="_blank">http://www.consumersinternational.org/news-and-media/resource-zone</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>@Consumers_Int | <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/" target="_blank">www.consumersinternational.org</a> | <a href="http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/consumersinternational</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Read our <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality" target="_blank">email confidentiality notice</a>. 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