[Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Sep 26 07:41:00 EDT 2013
On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>
> Dear Parminder,
>
> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we could go:
>
> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>
> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the world.
>
Joana,
That is *not* the main point of difference. I am fine if we dont say
that CGI model is extended outwards..... No problem. My main point is ,
why dont we mention marco civil process as well as an important part of
Brazilian model.... That completes the model, and this bottom process of
law drafting is unique. I mention this becuase there seem to be some
confusion that I am basically insisting the "CGI model should be
extended world wide part' - I would like to but that is not the part I
am insisting to be retained.... I just asking for Marco Cicil process to
be included in the Brazilian model that we commend in part 4...
parminder
> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting
> point. But it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal
> with things. In fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI
> political power as endorsing it as a legitim intent. So, for the
> purpose if this and for wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok?
> The part of marco civil is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
>
> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is
> passing by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the
> outreach.
>
> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
>
> Best.
>
> Joana
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net
> <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>> wrote:
>
> The text is fine as it is.
>
> Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing
> point 4?
>
> --srs (htc one x)
>
> On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
>
>> Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So
>> could we go for:
>>
>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model
>> for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon
>> <joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Louis and Parminder,
>>
>> Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with
>> the texto, due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
>>
>> - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model
>> should be extended to the world.
>>
>> - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
>>
>> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of
>> multilateral vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to
>> a conclusion that though its not the time to criticize this
>> specific point of Dilma's speech, we should reinforce our
>> support for developing models for a multistakeholder approach
>> on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
>>
>> Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to
>> reach this middle ground, would you be fine with the actual
>> version or want to submit changes in the language that don't
>> affect this (middle ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the
>> understanding.
>>
>> best
>>
>> joana
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
>> <pouzin at well.com <mailto:pouzin at well.com>> wrote:
>>
>> IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>> Cheers, Louis
>>
>> btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is
>> UTC-3
>> - - -
>>
>> On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing
>>> the pad now to avoid more crazy joined editing
>>> processes. Thanks for all the contributions.
>>>
>>> Let's receive final comments about very punctual
>>> changes or major disagreements and gaps until
>>> tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian time). Then
>>> collect endorsements through out the day.
>>>
>>> *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday
>>> night, let's say 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So
>>> Carlos can deliver it in hand to President Dilma. *
>>> *
>>>
>>> thanks once again,
>>>
>>> joana
>>>
>>> *Letter from**International C**ivil
>>> Society**Organizations****to President Dilma
>>> Rousseff in support of her **statement at **the 68th
>>> Session of the **UNGA *
>>>
>>>
>>> Your Excellency,
>>>
>>> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals
>>> from around the world, committed to the development
>>> of the Internetand its use for advancing social and
>>> economic justice, would like to express our strong
>>> support forthe statement delivered this week by your
>>> Excellency at the 68th Session ofthe United Nations
>>> General Assembly. We commend you for taking a
>>> leading roleon these issuesand would like to:
>>>
>>> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on
>>> the occasion, in clear accordance with the Brazilian
>>> Internet Steering Committee/'/s//Principles for the
>>> Governance and Use of the Internet.
>>>
>>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of
>>> the Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco
>>> Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these
>>> principles.
>>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing
>>> disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA
>>> about the procedures of illegal interception of
>>> information and data, framing it as a grave
>>> violation of human rights and of civil liberties
>>>
>>> 4.//Reinforce our support for an extension into
>>> broader spheres of Internet Governance of
>>> theexperiences from theBrazilian multistakeholder
>>> model of Internet governance,ledby CGI.br, which
>>> comprises representatives from Government,
>>> Scientific and TechnologyCommunity,private sectorand
>>> Civil Society on an equal footing.
>>>
>>> We express our deep appreciation for your serious
>>> commitment to social justice and development, of
>>> which an open, stable, and reliable Internet is a
>>> fundamental pillar.
>>>
>>> Signatories:
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>> @joana_varon
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>> --
>> --
>>
>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>> @joana_varon
>> PGP 0x016B8E73
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