[Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Sep 26 07:41:00 EDT 2013


On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>
> Dear Parminder,
>
> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we could go:
>
> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for 
> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>
> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the world.
>

Joana,

That is *not* the main point of difference. I am fine if we dont say 
that CGI model is extended outwards..... No problem. My main point is , 
why dont we mention marco civil process as well as an important part of 
Brazilian model.... That completes the model, and this bottom process of 
law drafting is unique. I mention this becuase there seem to be some 
confusion that I am basically insisting the "CGI model should be 
extended world wide part' - I would like to but that is not the part I 
am insisting to be retained.... I just asking for Marco Cicil process to 
be included in the Brazilian model that we commend in part 4...

parminder

> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting 
> point. But it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal 
> with things. In fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI 
> political power as endorsing it as a legitim  intent. So, for the 
> purpose if this and for wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok? 
> The part of marco civil is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
>
> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is 
> passing by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the 
> outreach.
>
> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
>
> Best.
>
> Joana
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net 
> <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>> wrote:
>
>     The text is fine as it is.
>
>     Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing
>     point 4?
>
>     --srs (htc one x)
>
>     On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
>
>>     Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So
>>     could we go for:
>>
>>     4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model
>>     for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon
>>     <joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Louis and Parminder,
>>
>>         Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with
>>         the texto, due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
>>
>>         - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model
>>         should be extended to the world.
>>
>>         - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
>>
>>         Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of
>>         multilateral vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to
>>         a conclusion that though its not the time to criticize this
>>         specific point of Dilma's speech, we should reinforce our
>>         support for developing models for a multistakeholder approach
>>         on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
>>
>>         Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to
>>         reach this middle ground, would you be fine with the actual
>>         version or want to submit changes in the language that don't
>>         affect this (middle ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the
>>         understanding.
>>
>>         best
>>
>>         joana
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
>>         <pouzin at well.com <mailto:pouzin at well.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>>             Cheers, Louis
>>
>>             btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is
>>             UTC-3
>>             - - -
>>
>>             On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>>
>>>                 Dear all,
>>>
>>>                 Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing
>>>                 the pad now to avoid more crazy joined editing
>>>                 processes. Thanks for all the contributions.
>>>
>>>                 Let's receive final comments about very punctual
>>>                 changes or major disagreements and gaps until
>>>                 tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian time). Then
>>>                 collect endorsements through out the day.
>>>
>>>                 *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday
>>>                 night, let's say 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So
>>>                 Carlos can deliver it in hand to President Dilma. *
>>>                 *
>>>
>>>                 thanks once again,
>>>
>>>                 joana
>>>
>>>                 *Letter from**International C**ivil
>>>                 Society**Organizations****to President Dilma
>>>                 Rousseff in support of her **statement at **the 68th
>>>                 Session of the **UNGA *
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Your Excellency,
>>>
>>>                 We, the undersigned organizations and individuals
>>>                 from around the world, committed to the development
>>>                 of the Internetand its use for advancing social and
>>>                 economic justice, would like to express our strong
>>>                 support forthe statement delivered this week by your
>>>                 Excellency at the 68th Session ofthe United Nations
>>>                 General Assembly. We commend you for taking a
>>>                 leading roleon these issuesand would like to:
>>>
>>>                 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on
>>>                 the occasion, in clear accordance with the Brazilian
>>>                 Internet Steering Committee/'/s//Principles for the
>>>                 Governance and Use of the Internet.
>>>
>>>                 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of
>>>                 the Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco
>>>                 Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these
>>>                 principles.
>>>                 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing
>>>                 disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA
>>>                 about the procedures of illegal interception of
>>>                 information and data, framing it as a grave
>>>                 violation of human rights and of civil liberties
>>>
>>>                 4.//Reinforce our support for an extension into
>>>                 broader spheres of Internet Governance of
>>>                 theexperiences from theBrazilian multistakeholder
>>>                 model of Internet governance,ledby CGI.br, which
>>>                 comprises representatives from Government,
>>>                 Scientific and TechnologyCommunity,private sectorand
>>>                 Civil Society on an equal footing.
>>>
>>>                 We express our deep appreciation for your serious
>>>                 commitment to social justice and development, of
>>>                 which an open, stable, and reliable Internet is a
>>>                 fundamental pillar.
>>>
>>>                 Signatories:
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         -- 
>>
>>         Joana Varon Ferraz
>>         @joana_varon
>>         PGP 0x016B8E73
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     -- 
>>
>>     Joana Varon Ferraz
>>     @joana_varon
>>     PGP 0x016B8E73
>>
>>

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