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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM,
      Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Dear Parminder,</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Considering the support from the others, this is as
        far as we could go:</p>
      <p dir="ltr">4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian
        multistakeholder model for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.<br>
      </p>
      <p dir="ltr">Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be
        extended to the world.</p>
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    Joana, <br>
    <br>
    That is *not* the main point of difference. I am fine if we dont say
    that CGI model is extended outwards..... No problem. My main point
    is , why dont we mention marco civil process as well as an important
    part of Brazilian model.... That completes the model, and this
    bottom process of law drafting is unique. I mention this becuase
    there seem to be some confusion that I am basically insisting the
    "CGI model should be extended world wide part' - I would like to but
    that is not the part I am insisting to be retained.... I just asking
    for Marco Cicil process to be included in the Brazilian model that
    we commend in part 4...<br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
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      <p dir="ltr"> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very
        good starting point. But it still have its problems, as every
        innovative way of deal with things. In fact, this letter has
        also the goal to straighten CGI political power as endorsing it
        as a legitim  intent. So, for the purpose if this and for wider
        consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part of marco civil
        is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">We shall publish it now at BB for collecting
        signatures as time is passing by. Will come up with a link asap.
        Hope u could help with the outreach.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration
        and insights.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Best.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Joana<br>
        <br>
        <br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh
        Ramasubramanian" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
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            <p>The text is fine as it is. </p>
            <p>Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about
              changing point 4?</p>
            <p>--srs (htc one x)<br>
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            <p>On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:</p>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font face="Verdana">Ops, just saw
                  Parminder's emails
                  with direct suggestions. So could we go for:<br>
                  <br>
                  4. Reinforce our
                  support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
                  Internet governance lead by CGI.br. </font><span></span></div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
                  at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com"
                      target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                            <div>Hi Louis and Parminder, <br>
                              <br>
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                            Until
                            now you were the only ones that didnt agree
                            fully with the texto, due to
                            paragraph 4. From what I've got:<br>
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                          - Parminder has a stronger take that THE
                          Brazilian model should
                          be extended to the world. <br>
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                        - Louis said that we should remove that mention
                        on the text.
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Before we start drafting the text, the issue
                        about of multilateral
                        vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to
                        a conclusion that though
                        its not the time to criticize this specific
                        point of Dilma's speech, we
                        should reinforce our support for developing
                        models for a multistakeholder
                        approach on IG, also having CGI experiences as a
                        inspiration. <br>
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                      <div>Having in mind that for a broader endorsement
                        we need to
                        reach this middle ground, would you be fine with
                        the actual version or want
                        to submit changes in the language that don't
                        affect this (middle
                        ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the
                        understanding. <br>
                        <br>
                        best<br>
                        <br>
                        joana<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
                            at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
                            <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:pouzin@well.com"
                                target="_blank">pouzin@well.com</a>></span>
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                                  <div>IMHO it would be better without
                                    parag
                                    4.<br>
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                                  Cheers, Louis<br>
                                  <br>
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                                btw, for those not living there,
                                local brazilian time is UTC-3<br>
                                <div>- - -<br>
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                                      On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM
                                      Joana Varon wrote:
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                                                  <div>Dear all, <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Please, find a
                                                    reduced version
                                                    below.
                                                    We are closing the
                                                    pad now to avoid
                                                    more crazy joined
                                                    editing processes.
                                                    Thanks for all the
                                                    contributions.<br>
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                                                  <br>
                                                  Let's receive final
                                                  comments about very
                                                  punctual changes or
                                                  major disagreements
                                                  and gaps until
                                                  tomorrow (Thursday)
                                                  9:00 am (Brazilian
                                                  time). Then collect
                                                  endorsements
                                                  through out the day. <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <b>Deadline for
                                                    signatures will be
                                                    this Thursday night,
                                                    let's say
                                                    22:00, also
                                                    Brazilian time</b>.
                                                  So Carlos can deliver
                                                  it in hand to
                                                  President Dilma. <b><br>
                                                  </b>
                                                  <div><br>
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                                                  <div>thanks once
                                                    again,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>joana<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <div><span><b>Letter
                                                          from</b></span><span><b>
                                                          International
                                                          C</b></span><span><b>ivil
                                                          Society</b></span><span><b>
                                                          Organizations</b></span><span><b>
                                                        </b></span><span><b>to
President
                                                          Dilma Rousseff
                                                          in support of
                                                          her </b></span><span><b>statement
                                                          at
                                                        </b></span><span><b>the
                                                          68th Session
                                                          of
                                                          the </b></span><span><b>UNGA </b></span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>Your
                                                        Excellency,</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <span>We, the
                                                        undersigned
                                                        organizations
                                                        and individuals
                                                        from
                                                        around the world</span><span>,
                                                        committed to the
                                                        development of
                                                        the
                                                        Internet</span><span>
                                                        and its use for
                                                        advancing social
                                                      </span><span>and
                                                        economic </span><span>justice</span><span>,
                                                        would like to
                                                        express our
                                                        strong
                                                        support </span><span>f</span><span>o</span><span>r</span><span>
                                                        the
                                                        statement
                                                        delivered this
                                                        week by your
                                                      </span><span>E</span><span>xcellency
                                                      </span><span>at
                                                        the 68th Session
                                                        of</span><span>
                                                        the United
                                                        Nations
                                                        General
                                                        Assembly. </span><span>We
                                                        commend you for
                                                      </span><span>taking
                                                        a
                                                        leading role</span><span>
                                                        on these
                                                        issues</span><span>
                                                        and would like
                                                        to:</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>1. Fully
                                                        endorse the five
                                                        principles
                                                        enunciated on
                                                        the occasion, in
                                                        clear accordance
                                                        with the </span><span>
                                                        Brazilian
                                                        Internet
                                                        Steering
                                                        Committee</span><span></span><span><i>'</i></span><span>s</span><span><i>
                                                        </i></span><span>Principles
for
                                                        the Governance
                                                        and Use of </span><span>the
                                                      </span><span>Internet.</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>2. Stress
                                                        the importance
                                                        of the timely
                                                        adoption of the
                                                        Brazilian Draft
                                                        Bill of Internet
                                                        Rights (Marco
                                                        Civil da
                                                        Internet) in a
                                                        way that upholds
                                                        these
                                                        principles.</span></div>
                                                    <div><span> </span></div>
                                                    <div><span>3.
                                                        Commend the
                                                        courage of
                                                        Brazil in
                                                        expressing
                                                        disapproval and
                                                        demanding
                                                        explanations
                                                        from the USA
                                                        about the
                                                        procedures of
                                                        illegal
                                                        interception of 
                                                        information and
                                                        data, framing it
                                                        as a grave
                                                        violation of
                                                        human rights and
                                                        of civil
                                                        liberties</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>4.</span><span><i>
                                                        </i></span><span>R</span><span>einforce
                                                        our support </span><span>for
                                                        an
                                                        extension into
                                                        broader spheres
                                                        of Internet
                                                        Governance of
                                                      </span><span>the</span><span>
                                                        experiences from
                                                        the</span><span>
                                                        Brazilian
                                                        multistakeholder
                                                        model </span><span>of
                                                      </span><span>Internet
                                                        governance</span><span>,</span><span>
                                                      </span><span>led</span><span>
                                                        by CGI.br, which
                                                        comprises
                                                        representatives
                                                        from
                                                        Government</span><span>,
                                                      </span><span>Scientific
                                                        and
                                                        Technolog</span><span>y</span><span>
                                                        Community,</span><span>
                                                      </span><span>p</span><span>rivate
                                                      </span><span>s</span><span>ector</span><span>
                                                        and Civil
                                                        Society on
                                                      </span><span>an </span><span>equal
                                                        footing</span><span>.</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>We </span><span>express
                                                      </span><span>our
                                                        deep
                                                        appreciation for
                                                        your serious
                                                        commitment to
                                                        social justice
                                                        and development,
                                                        of which an
                                                        open, stable,
                                                        and reliable
                                                        Internet is a
                                                        fundamental
                                                        pillar.</span></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span>Signatories:</span></div>
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                      <span><font color="#888888">-- <br>
                          -- <br>
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                          Joana Varon
                          Ferraz<br>
                          @joana_varon<br>
                          PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
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                Joana Varon
                Ferraz<br>
                @joana_varon<br>
                PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
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