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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM,
Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Dear Parminder,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Considering the support from the others, this is as
far as we could go:</p>
<p dir="ltr">4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian
multistakeholder model for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.<br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr">Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be
extended to the world.</p>
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Joana, <br>
<br>
That is *not* the main point of difference. I am fine if we dont say
that CGI model is extended outwards..... No problem. My main point
is , why dont we mention marco civil process as well as an important
part of Brazilian model.... That completes the model, and this
bottom process of law drafting is unique. I mention this becuase
there seem to be some confusion that I am basically insisting the
"CGI model should be extended world wide part' - I would like to but
that is not the part I am insisting to be retained.... I just asking
for Marco Cicil process to be included in the Brazilian model that
we commend in part 4...<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<p dir="ltr"> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very
good starting point. But it still have its problems, as every
innovative way of deal with things. In fact, this letter has
also the goal to straighten CGI political power as endorsing it
as a legitim intent. So, for the purpose if this and for wider
consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part of marco civil
is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We shall publish it now at BB for collecting
signatures as time is passing by. Will come up with a link asap.
Hope u could help with the outreach.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration
and insights.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Joana<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh
Ramasubramanian" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
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<p>The text is fine as it is. </p>
<p>Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about
changing point 4?</p>
<p>--srs (htc one x)<br>
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<p>On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Verdana">Ops, just saw
Parminder's emails
with direct suggestions. So could we go for:<br>
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4. Reinforce our
support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
Internet governance lead by CGI.br. </font><span></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com"
target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Louis and Parminder, <br>
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Until
now you were the only ones that didnt agree
fully with the texto, due to
paragraph 4. From what I've got:<br>
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- Parminder has a stronger take that THE
Brazilian model should
be extended to the world. <br>
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- Louis said that we should remove that mention
on the text.
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Before we start drafting the text, the issue
about of multilateral
vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to
a conclusion that though
its not the time to criticize this specific
point of Dilma's speech, we
should reinforce our support for developing
models for a multistakeholder
approach on IG, also having CGI experiences as a
inspiration. <br>
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<div>Having in mind that for a broader endorsement
we need to
reach this middle ground, would you be fine with
the actual version or want
to submit changes in the language that don't
affect this (middle
ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the
understanding. <br>
<br>
best<br>
<br>
joana<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pouzin@well.com"
target="_blank">pouzin@well.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>IMHO it would be better without
parag
4.<br>
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Cheers, Louis<br>
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btw, for those not living there,
local brazilian time is UTC-3<br>
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On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM
Joana Varon wrote:
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<div>Dear all, <br>
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Please, find a
reduced version
below.
We are closing the
pad now to avoid
more crazy joined
editing processes.
Thanks for all the
contributions.<br>
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<br>
Let's receive final
comments about very
punctual changes or
major disagreements
and gaps until
tomorrow (Thursday)
9:00 am (Brazilian
time). Then collect
endorsements
through out the day. <br>
<br>
<b>Deadline for
signatures will be
this Thursday night,
let's say
22:00, also
Brazilian time</b>.
So Carlos can deliver
it in hand to
President Dilma. <b><br>
</b>
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<div>thanks once
again,<br>
<br>
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<div>joana<br>
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<div><span><b>Letter
from</b></span><span><b>
International
C</b></span><span><b>ivil
Society</b></span><span><b>
Organizations</b></span><span><b>
</b></span><span><b>to
President
Dilma Rousseff
in support of
her </b></span><span><b>statement
at
</b></span><span><b>the
68th Session
of
the </b></span><span><b>UNGA </b></span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>Your
Excellency,</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<span>We, the
undersigned
organizations
and individuals
from
around the world</span><span>,
committed to the
development of
the
Internet</span><span>
and its use for
advancing social
</span><span>and
economic </span><span>justice</span><span>,
would like to
express our
strong
support </span><span>f</span><span>o</span><span>r</span><span>
the
statement
delivered this
week by your
</span><span>E</span><span>xcellency
</span><span>at
the 68th Session
of</span><span>
the United
Nations
General
Assembly. </span><span>We
commend you for
</span><span>taking
a
leading role</span><span>
on these
issues</span><span>
and would like
to:</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>1. Fully
endorse the five
principles
enunciated on
the occasion, in
clear accordance
with the </span><span>
Brazilian
Internet
Steering
Committee</span><span></span><span><i>'</i></span><span>s</span><span><i>
</i></span><span>Principles
for
the Governance
and Use of </span><span>the
</span><span>Internet.</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>2. Stress
the importance
of the timely
adoption of the
Brazilian Draft
Bill of Internet
Rights (Marco
Civil da
Internet) in a
way that upholds
these
principles.</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div>
<div><span>3.
Commend the
courage of
Brazil in
expressing
disapproval and
demanding
explanations
from the USA
about the
procedures of
illegal
interception of
information and
data, framing it
as a grave
violation of
human rights and
of civil
liberties</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>4.</span><span><i>
</i></span><span>R</span><span>einforce
our support </span><span>for
an
extension into
broader spheres
of Internet
Governance of
</span><span>the</span><span>
experiences from
the</span><span>
Brazilian
multistakeholder
model </span><span>of
</span><span>Internet
governance</span><span>,</span><span>
</span><span>led</span><span>
by CGI.br, which
comprises
representatives
from
Government</span><span>,
</span><span>Scientific
and
Technolog</span><span>y</span><span>
Community,</span><span>
</span><span>p</span><span>rivate
</span><span>s</span><span>ector</span><span>
and Civil
Society on
</span><span>an </span><span>equal
footing</span><span>.</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span>We </span><span>express
</span><span>our
deep
appreciation for
your serious
commitment to
social justice
and development,
of which an
open, stable,
and reliable
Internet is a
fundamental
pillar.</span></div>
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<div><span>Signatories:</span></div>
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<span><font color="#888888">-- <br>
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Joana Varon
Ferraz<br>
@joana_varon<br>
PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
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Joana Varon
Ferraz<br>
@joana_varon<br>
PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
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