Fwd: Re: [Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

[parminder]

On Thursday 26 September 2013 03:52 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
> Hi Louis and Parminder,
>
> Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with the 
> texto, due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
>
> - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model should be 
> extended to the world.

I am in fact in full agreement to 'The Brazilian model should be 
extended more widely' ..... I just dont agree with your description as 
being the existing Brazilian model :) . It sepaks about one part of it 
but not the other.

I am even happy to say


"Brazilian multistakeholder model of Internet governance should be 
extended more widely, including to the global level."


>
> - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
>
> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of multilateral vs 
> multistakeholderism was raised and we came to a conclusion that though 
> its not the time to criticize this specific point of Dilma's speech, 
> we should reinforce our support for developing models for a 
> multistakeholder approach on IG, also having CGI experiences as a 
> inspiration.
>
> Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to reach this 
> middle ground, would you be fine with the actual version or want to 
> submit changes in the language that don't affect this (middle ground) 
> meaning? Thanks a lot for the understanding.

Please see the above formulation. But if you insist that CGI experience 
(which model I like a lot) should be mentioned as an inspiration, I am 
unable to understand why should then the Marco Civil experience also be 
mentioned, the two together kind of completing the Brazilian model.

so maybe we can say;

""Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder approach to 
Internet governance, which model should be extended more widely, 
including to the global level. In this regard CGI and Marco Civil 
process should serve as an inspiration".

This formulation just adds Marco Civil process as a part of Brazilian IG 
system to your earlier formulation which I understand is only a fact. It 
takes nothing away from it.


parminder






>
> best
>
> joana
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com 
> <mailto:pouzin at well.com>> wrote:
>
>     IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>     Cheers, Louis
>
>     btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is UTC-3
>     - - -
>
>     On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>
>>         Dear all,
>>
>>         Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing the pad
>>         now to avoid more crazy joined editing processes. Thanks for
>>         all the contributions.
>>
>>         Let's receive final comments about very punctual changes or
>>         major disagreements and gaps until tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00
>>         am (Brazilian time). Then collect endorsements through out
>>         the day.
>>
>>         *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday night, let's
>>         say 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So Carlos can deliver it in
>>         hand to President Dilma. *
>>         *
>>
>>         thanks once again,
>>
>>         joana
>>
>>         *Letter from**International C**ivil
>>         Society**Organizations****to President Dilma Rousseff in
>>         support of her **statement at **the 68th Session of the **UNGA *
>>
>>
>>         Your Excellency,
>>
>>         We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around
>>         the world, committed to the development of the Internetand
>>         its use for advancing social and economic justice, would like
>>         to express our strong support forthe statement delivered this
>>         week by your Excellency at the 68th Session ofthe United
>>         Nations General Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading
>>         roleon these issuesand would like to:
>>
>>         1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the
>>         occasion, in clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet
>>         Steering Committee/'/s//Principles for the Governance and Use
>>         of the Internet.
>>
>>         2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the
>>         Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da
>>         Internet) in a way that upholds these principles.
>>         3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing disapproval
>>         and demanding explanations from the USA about the procedures
>>         of illegal interception of information and data, framing it
>>         as a grave violation of human rights and of civil liberties
>>
>>         4.//Reinforce our support for an extension into broader
>>         spheres of Internet Governance of theexperiences from
>>         theBrazilian multistakeholder model of Internet
>>         governance,ledby CGI.br, which comprises representatives from
>>         Government, Scientific and TechnologyCommunity,private
>>         sectorand Civil Society on an equal footing.
>>
>>         We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment
>>         to social justice and development, of which an open, stable,
>>         and reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.
>>
>>         Signatories:
>>
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> -- 
> -- 
>
> Joana Varon Ferraz
> @joana_varon
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