[bestbits] Fwd: Taking the Transparency Push Global

Wed Sep 25 17:24:36 EDT 2013

Hi Michael,

This is David Sullivan from GNI. There is no shortage of civil society
organizations (both GNI members and others) who are on these lists and have
been very active in pushing for transparency on surveillance and will have
their own responses to your question, but there are a couple of points I'd
like to make.

First, from GNI's point of view these transparency reforms are a
prerequisite to enable an informed debate about putting human rights at the
center of communications surveillance regimes. As we said in our
statement<http://globalnetworkinitiative.org/news/transparency-national-security-and-protecting-rights-online>back
in June,"We view such transparency reforms as necessary first steps in
examining
whether domestic law adequately protects the rights to privacy and freedom
of expression."

Secondly, our letters to the FOC governments complement the efforts of the
coalition that CDT has
organized<https://www.cdt.org/pr_statement/cdt-brings-together-major-internet-companies-advocates-demand-more-transparency-around->of
more than 60 companies, civil society organizations and other
stakeholders who have made a similar ask of the US government. Already
legislation has been introduced in response to that letter in both the
House and Senate. Those bills have not slowed momentum toward substantive
reform (momentum has been building in particular to address the bulk phone
records programs), rather they complement and reinforce those efforts.

Finally, yes there are definitely ways to "game the stats" in this realm
where we need to be very careful. For what it's worth, GNI has been very
careful to specify that both governments and companies should report not
just on the number of requests they make/receive, but also the number of
persons or accounts affected by those orders, to mitigate this concern.

All the best,
David

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>wrote:

> Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this...****
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> I know that pursuing this is a major pre-occupation of various US Internet
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> What I don't understand is why civil society should be interested in this
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> this (according to various Snowden documents i.e. one reqyest covering all
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