[bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 10:34:58 EDT 2013


Hi ,

I insist about caution even if it is not popular :) I understand that some
see a window of opportunity and possibility for CS to outline an agenda and
influence a summit (which remains to be defined).
I want CS to be more proactive and set the tone and I  found strange that
 we are issuing statement to support other statements or speeches, I would
prefer that we support more concrete actions and real commitments  instead
than just plain speeches.

and in particular for Fadi, I would like to ask him to apply what he is
preaching about multistakeholderism and respect process and stakeholders
within ICANN .

Best Regards,

Rafik


2013/10/10 matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org>

>  I agree that we need to approach this with some caution.  That said, we
> should start working on a CS agenda for this summit - its good for CS to
> communicate its expectations of such events early and we should start this
> process in Bali.  Less convinced about the need (or desirability) of
> writing letters of appreciation to all and sundry - we can always note our
> appreciation in the agenda we work up.
>
>
> On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>
> I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not to be
> enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a tremendous
> opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate. Why don't we start
> working on another letter to Rousseff, in which we support the idea but
> also start outlining a CS agenda for the summit? What would we like to see
> such a summit achieving? Maybe we can use our discussions in Bali as a
> basis from which to start drafting such an agenda.
>
> And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well, at least
> from those of us who believe that the internationalisation of ICANN would
> be a good thing :)
>
> What do others think?
>
> Best,
> Anja
> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>
>>  On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
>>
>>  It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance
>> challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards
>> an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can
>> participate on an equal footing...
>>
>>
>> It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large, have been in
>> proposing similar advances on the status quo.  (I have not made much of a
>> secret of the fact that I was disappointed in the number of endorsements
>> that the Best Bits statement on enhanced cooperation (
>> http://bestbits.net/ec) received, though in part I accept that this was
>> because the statement was simply too long.)
>>
>> This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future.  Of course the
>> writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a while now, but it has now
>> officially become irrelevant in terms of its larger role in
>> multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally anticipated in the
>> Tunis Agenda.  Of course it will continue to have a role as a discussion
>> forum, but the momentum for it to fulfil a  larger role has moved elsewhere.
>>
>> It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the technical
>> community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation.
>> Whilst they can still oppose meaningful implementation of enhanced
>> cooperation reforms, this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual.
>> With Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost patience and forging ahead regardless,
>> this leaves anyone arguing against reforms at the WGEC looking silly and
>> irrelevant.
>>
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