<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi ,<div><br></div><div>I insist about caution even if it is not popular :) I understand that some see a window of opportunity and possibility for CS to outline an agenda and influence a summit (which remains to be defined). </div>
<div>I want CS to be more proactive and set the tone and I found strange that we are issuing statement to support other statements or speeches, I would prefer that we support more concrete actions and real commitments instead than just plain speeches.</div>
<div><br></div><div>and in particular for Fadi, I would like to ask him to apply what he is preaching about multistakeholderism and respect process and stakeholders within ICANN .</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
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Best Regards,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Rafik </div></div></div>
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I agree that we need to approach this with some caution. That said,
we should start working on a CS agenda for this summit - its good
for CS to communicate its expectations of such events early and we
should start this process in Bali. Less convinced about the need
(or desirability) of writing letters of appreciation to all and
sundry - we can always note our appreciation in the agenda we work
up.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:<br>
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<p>I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not
to be enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a
tremendous opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate.
Why don't we start working on another letter to Rousseff, in
which we support the idea but also start outlining a CS agenda
for the summit? What would we like to see such a summit
achieving? Maybe we can use our discussions in Bali as a basis
from which to start drafting such an agenda.</p>
<p>And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well,
at least from those of us who believe that the
internationalisation of ICANN would be a good thing :)</p>
<p>What do others think?</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Anja</p>
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<pre>Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
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<pre>It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance
challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards
an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can
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It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large,
have been in proposing similar advances on the status quo.
(I have not made much of a secret of the fact that I was
disappointed in the number of endorsements that the Best
Bits statement on enhanced cooperation (<a href="http://bestbits.net/ec" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/ec</a>) received,
though in part I accept that this was because the statement
was simply too long.)<br>
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This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future.
Of course the writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a
while now, but it has now officially become irrelevant in
terms of its larger role in multi-stakeholder Internet
governance as originally anticipated in the Tunis Agenda.
Of course it will continue to have a role as a discussion
forum, but the momentum for it to fulfil a larger role has
moved elsewhere.<br>
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It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the
technical community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on
Enhanced Cooperation. Whilst they can still oppose
meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms,
this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual. With
Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost patience and forging ahead
regardless, this leaves anyone arguing against reforms at
the WGEC looking silly and irrelevant. <br>
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