process Re: [bestbits] [Meeting Report]: friday meeting with fadi et all

Tue Oct 29 08:44:33 EDT 2013

Just to clarify once again (and I'll be happy to clarify as much as it is
needed):

1) We are now in need to debate our strategy to engage in the Brazilian
Summit and in the coalition/dialogue proposed by Fadi et all.

2) Companies and Governments are on this list

3) At the bestbits meeting, pre-IGF, there was broad support to have a more
limited list, without private sector and government, for the purpose of
developing strategies.

Perhaps this will become clearer once the BB report on the session about BB
structure/working process is available.

Sorry for any confusion or misunderstanding.

best

joana

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at consensus.pro>wrote:

> For what it is worth, I hope that all the communities will discuss things
> in the open. After all, given we are all in favour of transparency, it
> seems to me we should all practice what we preach.
>
> On 29 Oct 2013, at 18:05, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Just a note to clarify: the goal for having a list closed just to civil
> society in its wider definition is not to "filter coordination of civil
> society through steering committees", quite the contrary: it is to be able
> to strategize in a more organized strategic manner among the general
> community.
>
> I believe that this particular issue has positively address during the
> bestbits meeting, where there was some general agreement that we could use
> a closed list for sensitive issues. But if anyone feels it is ok to
> strategize about how to engage in a coalition/dialogue with technical and
> business community having companies on the thread or to strategize how to
> engage with the brazilian government for the summit having other
> governments on the list. Please, do not hesitate to raise your point.
>
> best
>
> joana
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joana,
>>
>> Thanks for the notes.  I was in Bali but not able to attend any of the
>> meetings discussing the Brazil/ICANN summit plans.  And have been quite
>> surprised at the silence about these meetings so a report on this one
>> session is great to see.
>>
>> So a general request: could we please improve communication. Mainly I
>> mean reporting from meetings such as those held in Bali: if people are
>> attending as civil society, speaking in some way for civil society, then
>> please at least report back to the rest.
>>
>> On the issues of closed lists, etc.  Civil society coordination shouldn't
>> be filtering through steering committees and others, we got through WSIS
>> without an executive, the IGF came from civil society through our open
>> processes.  This summit and whatever follows shouldn't be more different.
>>  Please do not take this as lack of gratitude for the information received,
>> meetings organized and held, etc, etc.
>>
>> Second note more on substance later.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>>
>> > Dear people,
>> >
>> > Please, find attached the report that Laura and I have prepared about
>> the meeting of the “coalition/dialogue” (it doesnt has a name yet) that
>> happened last friday, as a result of the meeting with civil society and
>> Fadi on Thursday. Dear Carlos, please, feel free to add any further
>> consideration.
>> > Sorry for being late with this, but since Bestbits server was down, in
>> debates with BestBits steering committee and others colleagues, we have
>> been trying to sort out what is the best way to report about that meeting
>> and the one with the Brazilian delegation.
>> > As there is some time sensitiveness, the report of the meeting with
>> Fadi et all will be posted here, but this is what we found more suitable
>> and will be important for the next reports and steps:
>> >
>> >       • We need to come to an arrangement that strikes the right
>> balance between being inclusive and strategic as civil society, for example
>> reporting back on the main list, but strategizing on closed lists or
>> offlist. Draft working procedures on the wiki reflect your concerns
>> relatively well. But will attempt to integrate specific comments on those
>> procedures once the server is back up.
>> > My view, and this is my personal view trying to address the concerns
>> raised during BB meeting, is that the closed list for civil society will
>> use the widest concept of civil society, or a definition by exclusion,
>> meaning that all the people in bestbits list that are not strictly
>> government or private sector will be included. Problems that might come out
>> will be addressed as they show up, taking into account the goals of
>> besbits. I do think it will be the only way forward to coordinate all the
>> work we will have in the next months in a strategic manner concerning both
>> the Brazilian Summit and our engagement with the coalition/dialogue. If any
>> one have a major opposition to it, please, let us know.
>> >
>> > Otherwise, let's start debating the engagement with this
>> coalition/dialogue in a closed list?
>> > All the best,
>> > Joana
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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