[bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Thu Oct 10 12:00:20 EDT 2013

I cannot agree more.

Not only do I share Rafik's skepticism, I also think we should not fall
into the trap of thinking of ICANN (and the ICANN DNS gold rush) as
being at the core of the policy-making processes that matter to how
people access, use, and develop the internet.

That ICANN is now setting broader agendas, along with governments,
reflects entirely what is problematic with how power and influence plays
out in IG and I find it alarming.

Definitely agree with Anja and others who say that CS should get
involved in this debate. A critical perspective is needed now more than
ever.

Anriette

On 10/10/2013 16:34, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> I insist about caution even if it is not popular :) I understand that
> some see a window of opportunity and possibility for CS to outline an
> agenda and influence a summit (which remains to be defined). 
> I want CS to be more proactive and set the tone and I  found strange
> that  we are issuing statement to support other statements or
> speeches, I would prefer that we support more concrete actions and
> real commitments  instead than just plain speeches.
>
> and in particular for Fadi, I would like to ask him to apply what he
> is preaching about multistakeholderism and respect process and
> stakeholders within ICANN .
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik 
>
>
> 2013/10/10 matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>
>
>     I agree that we need to approach this with some caution.  That
>     said, we should start working on a CS agenda for this summit - its
>     good for CS to communicate its expectations of such events early
>     and we should start this process in Bali.  Less convinced about
>     the need (or desirability) of writing letters of appreciation to
>     all and sundry - we can always note our appreciation in the agenda
>     we work up.
>
>      
>     On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>>
>>     I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not
>>     to be enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a
>>     tremendous opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate.
>>     Why don't we start working on another letter to Rousseff, in
>>     which we support the idea but also start outlining a CS agenda
>>     for the summit? What would we like to see such a summit
>>     achieving? Maybe we can use our discussions in Bali as a basis
>>     from which to start drafting such an agenda.
>>
>>     And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well, at
>>     least from those of us who believe that the internationalisation
>>     of ICANN would be a good thing :)
>>
>>     What do others think?
>>
>>     Best,
>>     Anja
>>
>>     On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org
>>     <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:
>>>         On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> <mailto:avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>         Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
>>>         It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance 
>>>         challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards 
>>>         an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can 
>>>         participate on an equal footing...
>>
>>         It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large,
>>         have been in proposing similar advances on the status quo. 
>>         (I have not made much of a secret of the fact that I was
>>         disappointed in the number of endorsements that the Best Bits
>>         statement on enhanced cooperation (http://bestbits.net/ec)
>>         received, though in part I accept that this was because the
>>         statement was simply too long.)
>>
>>         This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future. 
>>         Of course the writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a
>>         while now, but it has now officially become irrelevant in
>>         terms of its larger role in multi-stakeholder Internet
>>         governance as originally anticipated in the Tunis Agenda.  Of
>>         course it will continue to have a role as a discussion forum,
>>         but the momentum for it to fulfil a  larger role has moved
>>         elsewhere.
>>
>>         It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the
>>         technical community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on
>>         Enhanced Cooperation.  Whilst they can still oppose
>>         meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms,
>>         this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual.  With
>>         Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost patience and forging ahead
>>         regardless, this leaves anyone arguing against reforms at the
>>         WGEC looking silly and irrelevant.
>>
>>         -- 
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>
>     -- 
>
>     Matthew Shears
>     Director and Representative
>     Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
>     Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)
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