[bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Thu Oct 10 11:41:36 EDT 2013

I agree about sending a letter of support. .
Especially since it could possibly push things along, in more positive 
directions.

And since it is yet almost an unborn initiative, we could put in the 
stake early.... Who knows in exchange for the legitimacy gained through 
civil society participation someone may even give us some elevated seats 
at the table... Brazil has often jumped to such partnership opportunity 
with civil society in other areas, and offered genuine partnerships.

So, lets do it. Write to Brazil welcoming the initiative,  and so on.

parminder

On Thursday 10 October 2013 08:36 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> I disagree and agree with Anja that a letter of support would be 
> desireable.  I would be very surprised if our earlier letter of 
> support for Dilma's speech at the UN was not communicated to her, 
> perhaps even directly through one or another of our Brazilian 
> colleagues or through those on her staff who are monitoring these 
> activities; and who knows, perhaps even contributed to strengthening 
> her (and Fadi's) resolve to take such a courageous and even audacious 
> step.
>
> A letter of support could only reinforce her/their intentions in this 
> matter and indicate that we (whoever exactly "we" are) as a CS group 
> are in support of this development, intend to provide on-going support 
> as it develops and further intend to actively contribute to its 
> success through ensuring that the public interest of all, globally, 
> are reflected in the Internet governance structure which hopefully 
> will emerge.
>
> M
>
> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net 
> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *matthew shears
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:28 AM
> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil 
> will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
>
> I agree that we need to approach this with some caution.  That said, 
> we should start working on a CS agenda for this summit - its good for 
> CS to communicate its expectations of such events early and we should 
> start this process in Bali.  Less convinced about the need (or 
> desirability) of writing letters of appreciation to all and sundry - 
> we can always note our appreciation in the agenda we work up.
>
> On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>
>     I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not to
>     be enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a
>     tremendous opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate. Why
>     don't we start working on another letter to Rousseff, in which we
>     support the idea but also start outlining a CS agenda for the
>     summit? What would we like to see such a summit achieving? Maybe
>     we can use our discussions in Bali as a basis from which to start
>     drafting such an agenda.
>
>     And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well, at
>     least from those of us who believe that the internationalisation
>     of ICANN would be a good thing :)
>
>     What do others think?
>
>     Best,
>     Anja
>
>     On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org
>     <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:
>
>         On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria<avri at acm.org>  <mailto:avri at acm.org>  wrote:
>
>             Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
>
>         It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance
>
>         challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards
>
>         an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can
>
>         participate on an equal footing...
>
>
>     It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large, have
>     been in proposing similar advances on the status quo.  (I have not
>     made much of a secret of the fact that I was disappointed in the
>     number of endorsements that the Best Bits statement on enhanced
>     cooperation (http://bestbits.net/ec) received, though in part I
>     accept that this was because the statement was simply too long.)
>
>     This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future.  Of
>     course the writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a while
>     now, but it has now officially become irrelevant in terms of its
>     larger role in multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally
>     anticipated in the Tunis Agenda.  Of course it will continue to
>     have a role as a discussion forum, but the momentum for it to
>     fulfil a  larger role has moved elsewhere.
>
>     It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the technical
>     community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on Enhanced
>     Cooperation.  Whilst they can still oppose meaningful
>     implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms, this opposition is
>     now utterly token and ineffectual.  With Brazil (and ICANN!)
>     having lost patience and forging ahead regardless, this leaves
>     anyone arguing against reforms at the WGEC looking silly and
>     irrelevant.
>
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