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<font face="Verdana">I agree about sending a letter of support. . <br>
Especially since it could possibly push things along, in more
positive directions. <br>
<br>
And since it is yet almost an unborn initiative, we could put </font><font
face="Verdana">in </font><font face="Verdana">the stake
early.... Who knows in exchange for the legitimacy gained through
civil society participation someone may even give us some elevated
seats at the table... Brazil has often jumped to such partnership
opportunity with civil society in other areas, and offered genuine
partnerships.<br>
<br>
So, lets do it. Write to Brazil welcoming the initiative, and so
on. <br>
<br>
parminder<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 10 October 2013 08:36 PM,
michael gurstein wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
disagree and agree with Anja that a letter of support would
be desireable. I would be very surprised if our earlier
letter of support for Dilma's speech at the UN was not
communicated to her, perhaps even directly through one or
another of our Brazilian colleagues or through those on her
staff who are monitoring these activities; and who knows,
perhaps even contributed to strengthening her (and Fadi's)
resolve to take such a courageous and even audacious step.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A
letter of support could only reinforce her/their intentions
in this matter and indicate that we (whoever exactly "we"
are) as a CS group are in support of this development,
intend to provide on-going support as it develops and
further intend to actively contribute to its success through
ensuring that the public interest of all, globally, are
reflected in the Internet governance structure which
hopefully will emerge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>matthew shears<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff
& Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet
governance in 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that we need to approach this with
some caution. That said, we should start working on a CS
agenda for this summit - its good for CS to communicate its
expectations of such events early and we should start this
process in Bali. Less convinced about the need (or
desirability) of writing letters of appreciation to all and
sundry - we can always note our appreciation in the agenda we
work up.<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult
not to be enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it
is a tremendous opportunity for all of us to engage in this
debate. Why don't we start working on another letter to
Rousseff, in which we support the idea but also start
outlining a CS agenda for the summit? What would we like to
see such a summit achieving? Maybe we can use our
discussions in Bali as a basis from which to start drafting
such an agenda.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as
well, at least from those of us who believe that the
internationalisation of ICANN would be a good thing :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What do others think?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best,<br>
Anja<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy
Malcolm" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank"><avri@acm.org></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>participate on an equal footing...<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at
large, have been in proposing similar advances on the
status quo. (I have not made much of a secret of the
fact that I was disappointed in the number of
endorsements that the Best Bits statement on enhanced
cooperation (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bestbits.net/ec" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/ec</a>)
received, though in part I accept that this was because
the statement was simply too long.)<br>
<br>
This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's
future. Of course the writing has been on the wall for
the IGF for a while now, but it has now officially
become irrelevant in terms of its larger role in
multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally
anticipated in the Tunis Agenda. Of course it will
continue to have a role as a discussion forum, but the
momentum for it to fulfil a larger role has moved
elsewhere.<br>
<br>
It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the
technical community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group
on Enhanced Cooperation. Whilst they can still oppose
meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation
reforms, this opposition is now utterly token and
ineffectual. With Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost
patience and forging ahead regardless, this leaves
anyone arguing against reforms at the WGEC looking silly
and irrelevant. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Matthew Shears<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Director and Representative<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Global Internet Policy and Human Rights<o:p></o:p></pre>
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