[bestbits] [very quick follow up] I*coalition/dialogue = 1net
matthew shears
mshears at cdt.org
Wed Nov 13 05:35:57 EST 2013
Thanks Joana to you and others for keeping us apprised.
Couple of comments:
2) If we have not already done so, I think it might be useful to
formally identify the four representatives to the Brazilian government
as the interfaces for civil society (or some appropriate wording)
indicating that this is a follow-on from our discussions with them at
the IGF etc.
3) it is important that the discussion on 1net documents either take
place in an open manner or take place in a clearly defined and equally
balanced multi-stakeholder group (steering or whatever). At the moment
they appear to be being drafted in public and private.
5) + 1 - we should participate *and shape* until that time we can make a
decision based on facts. That said, actual documents we can contribute
to in a transparent way need to be available and participation
mechanisms that enable equally balanced engagement need to be put in
place. We need to have these asap.
Matthew
On 12/11/2013 17:28, Joana Varon wrote:
> Hi Matthew and all,
>
> 5 important points to complete my previous email, red for *important
> info *andblue for *actions* required:
>
> 1) The thread discussing the framing document/concept note stopped.
> I'm asking for a clarification to see either it is going to be debated
> within the steering committee or what. Nevertheless, it would be good
> if we manage to reach Buenos Aires with our comments on this (I'm
> trying to find means to go, if anyone has suggestions, let me know).
> So, let's follow Joy's comments and add it to a pad for inputs. I'll
> coordinate with Carolina to have a commented version online for edits
> and send you a link asap.
>
>
> 2) On the other hand, another document regarding the Summit (now
> called conference), has been sent to the list (please, find it
> attached). It's a proposal written by Icann and Adiel. I'm also trying
> to have clarifications about it's goal (either if it is meant to be a
> proposal from the 1net/dialogue to the Brazilian government or if it
> is a Icann draft). I don't like it in the way it stands, but we can
> discuss this later on, after we get this clarification. On the other
> hand, it would be good to advance a bit from our statement and know
> what do WE want from the summit. :)
>
>
> 3) Also, Carolina has just asked the list to have all this documents
> (concept note and summit draft) available for subscribers as well.
>
>
> 4) So, in order to answer Bill's question on the other thread
> initiated by Carolina with the previous follow up summary, we believe
> most of the work on the next steps for 1net will be focused on:
>
> - thesetwo documents (1 net/dialogue concept note and summit draft)
>
> - pointing representatives from each stakeholder group (business, tech
> and civil soc) for thesteering committee and for the conference
> working group. Please, note that governments are not part of the list
> of stakeholders involved in the dialogue/1net. (ps. I'm just
> reporting, a dialogue without governments is not my perfect view of a
> coalition)
>
> 5) The issue of engaging or not still remains, but I would keep going
> to see.. once there is a steering committee and these two documents
> are formatted, we will have a better idea of all this. Carolina,
> please, correct me if I'm wrong, but, besides recognizing that each
> stakeholder group will point it's representatives,I haven't seen any
> mechanism or process debated to set the steering, have you?
>
> kind regards,
>
> joana
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org
> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Could someone point us to the latest version of the 1net framing
> document?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 12/11/2013 15:18, Joana Varon wrote:
>> Good point, Adam. Please, remember that this quick summary is a
>> report on the the strategy developed just within the dialogue/1net.
>>
>> The Brazilian government is still to delivery an statement with
>> details for engagement, but the spirit, as far as I know, is that
>> it will be open and inclusive. Please, remember that we have even
>> proposed to the Minister of Communications to open a platform for
>> public consultation and the idea was welcomed.
>> Let us develop further the conversations with the Brazilian
>> government to search for more on this.
>>
>> best
>>
>> joana
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp
>> <mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Joana,
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Quick question - in the opening and closing sessions in Bali,
>> representatives of Brazil said the meeting would be open for
>> all to help organize and for all to participate: an open
>> invitation to an open meeting. Was this discussed on the
>> list, and they instead decided on a more limited steering
>> committee? (I will try to look at the archives).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Hello! Sorry for being away on bb threads, I was offline
>> for a few days, I´m catching up with the other emails, but
>> please, find here quick updates on the debates about the
>> I*coalition/dialogue, which now is being called dialogue or 1net:
>> >
>> > Wisely, the archive and the subscription process to the
>> list is now open to anyone. Subscriptions here
>> https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination. Archives
>> accessible here https://nro.net/pipermail/i-coordination/
>> >
>> > Also, a website called 1net.org <http://1net.org> was put
>> in place and sent by Adiel to the list, who asked for
>> comments. A note will go out in the next days to those who
>> attended wider meetings in Bali to sign up via the website.
>> >
>> > Work of the 1net dialogue shall be divided in two tracks:
>> >
>> > - Brazilian summit (that part of the coalition/dialogue,
>> particularly business, remains calling meeting). For that,
>> the dialogue, following our move in Bali, is also suggesting
>> to have 3 representatives from each stakeholder (civil
>> society, business, technical community), to identify 3
>> representatives to participate in the preparations.
>> >
>> > - Overall dialogue, were the first step will be exchanges
>> to establish a dialogue (or 1net) steering committee to help
>> prepare any materials for discussion/coordinate with the
>> broader community. On my perception, reaching balance on
>> this steering committee will be vital to assess our level of
>> engagement in the dialogue. The issue of representativeness
>> of CS will knock again on our doors.
>> >
>> > Hope it helps
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > joana
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Joana Varon Ferraz
>> > @joana_varon
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