[bestbits] Re: Best Bits workshop proposal for the 2013 IGF]

Mon Mar 18 21:35:17 EDT 2013

Thanks Andrew, again a set of very good proposals. I agree that we 
should submit these.

A few suggestions though, but I leave it to you to take them or not. I 
do understand that there is a certain logic and integrity of such 
proposals in the original proponents mind and that is important.

Pl see inline.

On Monday 18 March 2013 07:44 PM, Andrew Puddephatt wrote:
>
> Following up on the previous e-mail about future work for the best 
> Bits group, I said I'd draft an outline proposal for Best Bits 
> workshops at the IGF in Bali
>
> At this stage it is a very simple outline so I'm suggesting submitting 
> the following two proposals which reflect what we have already 
> circulated. Could you send back comments by the end of Tuesday if 
> possible as we have to submit proposals by the end of the week
>
> Workshop 1: *Who runs the internet -- how civil society can have a voice*
>

Can we make it 'how people can have a voice'. I kind of want to reclaim 
the categories of people, public and public interest, becuase in the IG 
space somehow civil society, business, technical community seem to  
becoming self justifying represenation categories when in fact it should 
always be about people's representation in policy making and governance 
- while modalities may vary and evolve.

> //
>
> /Concise description of broader thematic area of interest (500 
> characters): /
>
> Debates about internet governance are coming to head in the next three 
> years through the WSIS plus 10 process, and the CSTD working group on 
> enhanced cooperation.  They have moved beyond the internet's 
> functional resources into more controversial policy areas such as 
> privacy, surveillance, censorship, net neutrality.  There are fierce 
> disagreements between states about whether, or how, the internet 
> should be governed.  This multi-stakeholder discussion will seek to 
> identify the appropriate role for different stakeholders, governments, 
> business and civil society and how effective multi-stakeholder working 
> can be encouraged.
>
> //
>
> /Concise description of specific issues or policy questions to be 
> addressed (500 characters)/
>
> .             What is the specific and legitimate role of governments 
> in internet policy making?
>
> .             How civil society can participate effectively to 
> internet policy debates while being both representative and transparent
>
> .             How can companies with different and competing interests 
> be represented in multi-stakeholder working
>
> .             The role of normative, soft law mechanisms as opposed to 
> hard law
>
> .             Should we strengthen the IGF or replace it?
>

I think this is a bit distracting - no one have asked for IGF to be 
replaced, other than some people wrongly asserting that any new 
mechanism for enhanced cooperation is an effort to replace the IGF, 
which is a complete untruth. In fact the opposite is true; they want 
possible global policy making systems to be anticipated and thwarted by 
a loose IGF model, whose mandate is really something else.

Maybe we can simply say here ' How the IGF can evolve and be strengthened'.

> .             Is effective multi-stakeholder policy making possible 
> where issues are fiercely contested?
>
> Workshop 2: *The internet we want -- supporting democracy and human 
> rights*
>
> /Concise description of broader thematic area of interest (500 
> characters): /
>
> Building upon broad  principles  for the  internet, including the OECD 
> Internet Policymaking Principles,
>

OECD principles are highly controversial, and were rejected by OECD's 
own civil society. While you may still mention them, can we maybe start 
with Brazilian Internet Principles 
<http://www.cgi.br/english/regulations/resolution2009-003.htm> .

Thats about it :). Thanks.

parminder

> the Council of Europe Internet Governance  Declaration,  and  the  
> Internet  Rights  and Principles  Coalition  Charter, there is a need 
> to provide more detail and clarity on how human rights principles 
> apply to the internet in practice.  In particular, there is a need to 
> move past the high level normative thinking to consider the technical 
> infrastructure and commercial environment needed for the internet 
> functionally to promote democracy and human rights.
>
> //
>
> /Concise description of specific issues or policy questions to be 
> addressed (500 characters):/
>
> Drawing upon (and bringing together) existing initiatives such as the 
> current MAG review of principles initiatives, the "Web we want", and 
> the Internet Rights and Principles Coalition the workshop will seek to 
> define the specific technical features, the necessary commercial 
> environment and the legal and normative measures that shape policy and 
> regulation online, which, taken together, create the type of internet 
> that can support democracy and human rights.
>
> Andrew Puddephatt, Director
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bestbits-request at lists.igcaucus.org 
> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder
> Sent: 14 March 2013 07:25
> To: bestbits at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: [bestbits] Best Bits meeting plans for the 2013 IGF]
>
> Thanks Jeremy and Andrew,
>
> This looks like a very well done and purposeful agenda/ work plan . ..
>
> parminder
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>
> Subject: [bestbits] Best Bits meeting plans for the 2013 IGF
>
> From:    "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>>
>
> Date:    Thu, March 14, 2013 12:07 am
>
> To: bestbits at lists.igcaucus.org <mailto:bestbits at lists.igcaucus.org>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello all,
>
> This is to follow on from Andrew's summary of the informal Best Bits 
> meeting in Paris.  If you can't find it, it is available in the web 
> archives of this list at http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/bestbits.
>
> (Thanks also to Deborah for forwarding the notice about the short 
> deadline for IGF workshop proposals.)
>
> On the basis of suggestions and offers made so far, here is what we 
> are proposing for Best Bits in 2013.  It follows from the discussions 
> in Paris, but is just a rough outline and it is still open for your 
> comments:
>
>    * A two-day pre-IGF Best Bits meeting on the weekend of 19-20 October
>
>      in Bali, with an overall theme around a positive agenda for Internet
>
>      governance, which (like last time) will split into two very
>
>      practical agenda items, one of them substantive ("what we want"),
>
>      and the other procedural ("how we can get it"):
>
>        o Identifying common civil society strategies for advancing a
>
>          human rights Internet.  This can incorporate related initiatives
>
>          such as the IGF MAG's newly-established Internet principles
>
>          working group, and the "Web We Want" initiative that a number of
>
>          those from this list are involved with.
>
>        o A positive agenda for the evolution of Internet governance
>
>          arrangements.  This will tie in with the work of the CSTD
>
>          Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation.  The output of this would
>
>          be a common civil society position on an enhanced cooperation
>
>          mechanism or process (perhaps IGF-based) that we could support.
>
>    * Two public IGF workshops that would present each of the two agenda
>
>     items above to a wider audience, and would include participation by
>
>      representatives of the other stakeholder groups.  Global Partners is
>
>      working on text for the workshop proposals, and will post them for
>
>      comment when ready.
>
> Meanwhile I am fundraising now to get some more travel funds for those 
> who will need it, and indeed to broaden the funding base compared to 
> last time.  The funds will also be used for a permanent website, 
> including a rather sophisticated event calendar, which will begin as a 
> rather less sophisticated event calendar, and grow features progressively.
>
> If you have any comments on the above outline please share them.  Thanks!
>
> -- 
>
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