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<font face="Verdana">Thanks Andrew, again a set of very good
proposals. I agree that we should submit these. <br>
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A few suggestions though, but I leave it to you to take them or
not. I do understand that there is a certain logic and integrity
of such proposals in the original proponents mind and that is
important. <br>
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Pl see inline.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 18 March 2013 07:44 PM,
Andrew Puddephatt wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Following up on the previous e-mail
about future work for the best Bits group, I said I'd draft an
outline proposal for Best Bits workshops at the IGF in Bali<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">At this stage it is a very simple
outline so I'm suggesting submitting the following two
proposals which reflect what we have already circulated.
Could you send back comments by the end of Tuesday if possible
as we have to submit proposals by the end of the week<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Workshop 1: <b>Who runs the internet –
how civil society can have a voice</b></p>
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Can we make it 'how people can have a voice'. I kind of want to
reclaim the categories of people, public and public interest,
becuase in the IG space somehow civil society, business, technical
community seem to becoming self justifying represenation categories
when in fact it should always be about people's representation in
policy making and governance - while modalities may vary and evolve.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i>Concise description of broader
thematic area of interest (500 characters): <o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Debates about internet governance are
coming to head in the next three years through the WSIS plus
10 process, and the CSTD working group on enhanced
cooperation. They have moved beyond the internet’s functional
resources into more controversial policy areas such as
privacy, surveillance, censorship, net neutrality. There are
fierce disagreements between states about whether, or how, the
internet should be governed. This multi-stakeholder
discussion will seek to identify the appropriate role for
different stakeholders, governments, business and civil
society and how effective multi-stakeholder working can be
encouraged. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i>Concise description of specific
issues or policy questions to be addressed (500 characters)<o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">• What is the specific and
legitimate role of governments in internet policy making?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">• How civil society can
participate effectively to internet policy debates while being
both representative and transparent<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">• How can companies with
different and competing interests be represented in
multi-stakeholder working<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">• The role of normative,
soft law mechanisms as opposed to hard law<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">• Should we strengthen the
IGF or replace it?</p>
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I think this is a bit distracting - no one have asked for IGF to be
replaced, other than some people wrongly asserting that any new
mechanism for enhanced cooperation is an effort to replace the IGF,
which is a complete untruth. In fact the opposite is true; they want
possible global policy making systems to be anticipated and thwarted
by a loose IGF model, whose mandate is really something else. <br>
<br>
Maybe we can simply say here ' How the IGF can evolve and be
strengthened'.<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">• Is effective
multi-stakeholder policy making possible where issues are
fiercely contested?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Workshop 2: <b>The internet we want –
supporting democracy and human rights</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i>Concise description of broader
thematic area of interest (500 characters): <o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Building upon broad principles for
the internet, including the OECD Internet Policymaking
Principles, </p>
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OECD principles are highly controversial, and were rejected by
OECD's own civil society. While you may still mention them, can we
maybe start with <a
href="http://www.cgi.br/english/regulations/resolution2009-003.htm">Brazilian
Internet Principles</a> .<br>
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Thats about it :). Thanks. <br>
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parminder <br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">the Council of Europe Internet
Governance Declaration, and the Internet Rights and
Principles Coalition Charter, there is a need to provide
more detail and clarity on how human rights principles apply
to the internet in practice. In particular, there is a need
to move past the high level normative thinking to consider the
technical infrastructure and commercial environment needed for
the internet functionally to promote democracy and human
rights.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><i>Concise description of specific
issues or policy questions to be addressed (500 characters):<o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Drawing upon (and bringing together)
existing initiatives such as the current MAG review of
principles initiatives, the “Web we want”, and the Internet
Rights and Principles Coalition the workshop will seek to
define the specific technical features, the necessary
commercial environment and the legal and normative measures
that shape policy and regulation online, which, taken
together, create the type of internet that can support
democracy and human rights.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Andrew Puddephatt, Director <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org">bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of
parminder<br>
Sent: 14 March 2013 07:25<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.igcaucus.org">bestbits@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: [bestbits] Best Bits meeting plans for
the 2013 IGF]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks Jeremy and Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This looks like a very well done and
purposeful agenda/ work plan . ..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">parminder<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">---------------------------- Original
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [bestbits] Best Bits meeting
plans for the 2013 IGF<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: "Jeremy Malcolm" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jeremy@ciroap.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Thu, March 14, 2013 12:07 am<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">bestbits@lists.igcaucus.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This is to follow on from Andrew's
summary of the informal Best Bits meeting in Paris. If you
can't find it, it is available in the web archives of this
list at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/bestbits"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/bestbits</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">(Thanks also to Deborah for forwarding
the notice about the short deadline for IGF workshop
proposals.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On the basis of suggestions and offers
made so far, here is what we are proposing for Best Bits in
2013. It follows from the discussions in Paris, but is just a
rough outline and it is still open for your comments:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> * A two-day pre-IGF Best Bits meeting
on the weekend of 19-20 October<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> in Bali, with an overall theme
around a positive agenda for Internet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> governance, which (like last time)
will split into two very<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> practical agenda items, one of them
substantive ("what we want"),<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> and the other procedural ("how we
can get it"):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> o Identifying common civil
society strategies for advancing a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> human rights Internet. This
can incorporate related initiatives<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> such as the IGF MAG's
newly-established Internet principles<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> working group, and the "Web We
Want" initiative that a number of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> those from this list are
involved with.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> o A positive agenda for the
evolution of Internet governance<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> arrangements. This will tie in
with the work of the CSTD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Working Group on Enhanced
Cooperation. The output of this would<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> be a common civil society
position on an enhanced cooperation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> mechanism or process (perhaps
IGF-based) that we could support.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> * Two public IGF workshops that would
present each of the two agenda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> items above to a wider audience,
and would include participation by<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> representatives of the other
stakeholder groups. Global Partners is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> working on text for the workshop
proposals, and will post them for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> comment when ready.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Meanwhile I am fundraising now to get
some more travel funds for those who will need it, and indeed
to broaden the funding base compared to last time. The funds
will also be used for a permanent website, including a rather
sophisticated event calendar, which will begin as a rather
less sophisticated event calendar, and grow features
progressively.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">If you have any comments on the above
outline please share them. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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