[bestbits] RE: [governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secrAnet files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk

[michael gurstein]

McTim,

 

As I was very careful to point out in my initial blogposts on this re: the
WCIT, the issue is not
<http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/whose-hand-off-what-internet-some-
reflections-on-wcit-2012/> "hands off the Internet" but rather whose hands
off (or on) and for what purposes. 

 

There will inevitably be mutliple hands on the Internet, it is far too
important and pervasive for there not to be--and anyone surprised by the
revelations from the Guardian article isn't living in the real world. 

 

The question is whether there are structures of accountability,
responsibility, transparency and so on that are accessible and useable for
everyone and not just for those who are in a current position of economic,
political or technical authority/power. 

 

M

 

From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:31 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
Subject: Re: [governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants'
systems for user data, secrAnet files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:22 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

So where exactly does this leave the current/recent "Hands off the Internet"
campaign as spearheaded by the USG, Google, and various of their supporters
and cooperants in Civil Society and elsewhere?

 

 

Doesn't this news (yet to be clarified BTW, see link below) mean that we
should push for more hands-offyness, rather than less? 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/internet-companies-deny-prism_n_339
9841.html?ref=topbar

 

 

 

 

I'm personally ready to join any campaign which recognizes these realities
as below and militates for "everyone's" hands off the Internet and/or the
putting in place of effective global measures to ensure appropriate
oversight, appeal, transparency, accountability etc.etc.

 

 

am for the former, not the latter.

 

 

 

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel 

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