[bestbits] International civil society letter to Congress to follow up from HRC statement

Ginger Paque gpaque at gmail.com
Wed Jun 12 17:40:14 EDT 2013


Thanks, Joy.... this is a complex situation in so many ways....
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On 12 June 2013 15:18, joy <joy at apc.org> wrote:

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> Hi Ginger - just to answer your question on law in other countries: yes
> there are quite a few with such protection - ironically including some of
> those under surveillance - New Zealand has whistleblower laws for example
> that include disclosures of wrong doing by public authorities:
>
> https://www.internationalwhistleblowers.com/legislations/406/68-home-office-leaker#DLM2035939
> an interesting question (whch i have not had time to look at) is whether
> snowden for exmaple would have been protected under NZ law if he had made
> the revelations about NZ government activity in passing on information (or
> the UK etc)
> Joy
>
>
> On 13/06/2013 5:06 a.m., Ginger Paque wrote:
> > There are some statutes that protect whistleblowers in some cases, but
> this is subject to interpretation and the scope of the particular
> whistleblower statute you are looking at. The lawyer I asked said it is
> further complicated by 'whistleblowing' against the nation (USA) and
> possible allegations of treason and terrorism (e.g. Bradley
> Manning/Wikileaks)
> >
> > Most whistleblower protections seem to address employee whistleblowing
> or corporate fraud.
> >
> > Do other countries besides the USA offer protections?
> >
> > gp
> >
> > Ginger (Virginia) Paque
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> >
> > On 12 June 2013 11:47, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org
> <mailto:anriette at apc.org> <anriette at apc.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Replying only to BestBits... the multiple messages are driving me
> round
> >     the bend.
> >
> >     I support Joana on this, but understand the strategic considerations
> to.
> >
> >     Is there any protection for whistleblowers in the US we can make
> >     reference to in this last paragraph? So that we can say that 'such
> >     protection should apply to whistleblowers in this case'?
> >
> >     anriette
> >
> >
> >     On 12/06/2013 18:22, Joana Varon wrote:
> >     > I'm ok if we take the paragraph that Kevin and Carol mentioned out
> and
> >     > leave the last part of the final paragraph:
> >     >
> >     > "We further call on the United States Congress to protect the
> >     > whistleblowers involved in this case and support their efforts to
> combat
> >     > these kinds of mass violations of the fundamental human rights of
> American
> >     > and foreign citizens.[9]"
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Joana Varon <
> joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com><joana at varonferraz.com>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >> "So we need others to protect him from US.."
> >     >>
> >     >> then, as International community, we need the US to know we
> support his
> >     >> protection, isnt it?
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Carolina Rossini <
> >     >> carolina.rossini at gmail.com <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com><carolina.rossini at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>> Joana, I agree with Kevin on this. We need action of the
> international
> >     >>> community to protect whistleblowers when they break a law in a
> certain
> >     >>> country when such action in favor of a bigger common good - and
> actually
> >     >>> public interest.
> >     >>> So we need others to protect him from US...I do not believe
> anything else
> >     >>> would work in this case.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Bankston <
> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org> <kbankston at cdt.org>>wrote:
> >     >>>
> >     >>>> Understood.  But the audience has changed.  There it was the
> HRC, where
> >     >>>> your point might have purchase.  But if we are here addressing
> US
> >     >>>> policymakers, and we are, that's a context where even those who
> are
> >     >>>> staunchly on our side on the substance have had to condemn what
> Snowden did
> >     >>>> as a clear violation of the law.
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>    ____________________________________
> >     >>>> Kevin S. Bankston
> >     >>>> Senior Counsel and Free Expression Director
> >     >>>> Center for Democracy & Technology
> >     >>>> 1634 I St NW, Suite 1100
> >     >>>> Washington, DC 20006
> >     >>>> 202.407.8834 <tel:202.407.8834> direct
> >     >>>> 202.637.0968 <tel:202.637.0968> fax
> >     >>>> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org><kbankston at cdt.org>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> Follow CDT on Twitter at @cendemtech
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Joana Varon <
> joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com><joana at varonferraz.com>>
> wrote:
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> As I've mentioned in the document:
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> I believe it is very important to express our concerns about
> the future
> >     >>>> of the whistleblowers in every single statement we make... I
> mean, the guy
> >     >>>> is in huge trouble.. all the efforts are welcome and protecting
> him is also
> >     >>>> part of our main points. That was expressed in a paragraph on
> our Statement
> >     >>>> to HRC and there were a few organizations that signed our
> statement to
> >     >>>> HCR particularly because we have mentioned this point.
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Carolina Rossini <
> >     >>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com><carolina.rossini at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>> + 1 on Kevin's comments
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Kevin Bankston <
> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org> <kbankston at cdt.org>>wrote:
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Sorry, used the old best bits list address, now using new
> one...
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Kevin
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Kevin Bankston <
> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org> <kbankston at cdt.org>>
> >     >>>>>> wrote:
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> I'm not sure how bestbits fell out of this thread--I thought
> bestbists
> >     >>>>>> was going to be the main channel for this discussion--so
> adding that list
> >     >>>>>> back into cc.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> In addition to Carolina, I've also made some small tweaks and
> one big
> >     >>>>>> comment.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> The tweaks:
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> 1) Changed "Some US-based Internet companies with global
> reach also
> >     >>>>>> seem to be *complicit* in these practices" to
> "participating".  I am
> >     >>>>>> all for calling out "complicity" in cases like, e.g., AT&T's
> cooperation
> >     >>>>>> with the Bush-era program that operated without court
> approval (for the
> >     >>>>>> record, I'm one of the attorneys who brought cases against
> AT&T and the NSA
> >     >>>>>> over that program, while I was at EFF).  But as far as we
> know now the
> >     >>>>>> companies participating currently are doing so under secret
> *order* of the
> >     >>>>>> FISA court and even if they had attempted to challenge those
> orders we
> >     >>>>>> would never know.  So I'm less willing to tar with the
> "complicity" brush.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> 2) Changed "Involved or affected companies *must* publish
> statistics"
> >     >>>>>> to "must *be allowed to*" publish statistics.  Right now they
> are forbidden
> >     >>>>>> by law from doing so.  So we should be asking USG to allow
> them to do so.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> The one big comment, seconding Carolina's: I think that the
> paragraph
> >     >>>>>> focusing on whistleblowing is a politically dangerous
> distraction from the
> >     >>>>>> main point.  We had the same discussion in the
> stopwathing.uscoalition--many people wanted to focus on Snowden--but after
> a lot of
> >     >>>>>> debate it was agreed that doing so would actually detract
> from what he is
> >     >>>>>> trying to accomplish.  I think the same is true here.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Thanks,
> >     >>>>>> K
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> PS CDT will have a blog post up shortly praising the HRC
> statement and
> >     >>>>>> the Larue report and highlighting for a US audience the
> global human rights
> >     >>>>>> impact of this issue.
> >     >>>>>>     ____________________________________
> >     >>>>>> Kevin S. Bankston
> >     >>>>>> Senior Counsel and Free Expression Director
> >     >>>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology
> >     >>>>>> 1634 I St NW, Suite 1100
> >     >>>>>> Washington, DC 20006
> >     >>>>>> 202.407.8834 <tel:202.407.8834> direct
> >     >>>>>> 202.637.0968 <tel:202.637.0968> fax
> >     >>>>>> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org><kbankston at cdt.org>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Follow CDT on Twitter at @cendemtech
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Carolina Rossini <
> >     >>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com
> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com> <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Hi all
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> I just talked to Gene, and we have some new inputs. Edits on
> the
> >     >>>>>> letter.
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> C
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Joana Varon <
> joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com><joana at varonferraz.com>
> >wrote:
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >     >>>>>>> Great job! I'm adding some brackets.. if I might.
> >     >>>>>>> Shall we be delivering this in Tunis, next week? During the
> Freedom
> >     >>>>>>> Online Coalition meeting.
> >     >>>>>>> best
> >     >>>>>>> joana
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Carolina Rossini <
> >     >>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com
> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com> <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Kevin,
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Thank you for your inputs. However, do you think there is
> space to
> >     >>>>>>>> say - besides reforming such law - there was a overreaching
> of authority ?
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> C
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Kevin Bankston <
> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org> <kbankston at cdt.org>>wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> By then we might also have responses to Andrew Puddephatt's
> >     >>>>>>>>> questions.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how best to answer Andrew's questions; FISA
> is a
> >     >>>>>>>>> complex law.  And to be clear, Section 215 of the PATRIOT
> Act was an
> >     >>>>>>>>> amendment to FISA's provision for court orders for
> records; not a separate
> >     >>>>>>>>> law.  And the state secrets privilege is common law; there
> is no statute
> >     >>>>>>>>> for it.  But I'll do my best!
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> To read Andrew's question as narrowly as possible so that
> I can
> >     >>>>>>>>> give a quick answer:  In the context of foreign
> intelligence and terrorism
> >     >>>>>>>>> investigations, FISA regulates surveillance conducted
> inside the United
> >     >>>>>>>>> States, and acquisition of records from companies inside
> the United
> >     >>>>>>>>> States, and surveillance outside of the United States to
> the extent it
> >     >>>>>>>>> implicates United States person (i.e., citizens and
> naturalized permanent
> >     >>>>>>>>> residents); there is also the National Security Letter
> authority which is
> >     >>>>>>>>> an authority for the FBI to obtain records without going
> through the FISA
> >     >>>>>>>>> Court.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> These authorities directly implicate the privacy of
> non-Americans
> >     >>>>>>>>> to the extent that 1) non-Americans may reside in the US,
> 2) non-Americans
> >     >>>>>>>>> communications will transit or be stored in facilities in
> the US, 3)
> >     >>>>>>>>> records about non-Americans will be stored by companies in
> the US.
> >     >>>>>>>>>  Finally, it also implicates the privacy of non-Americans
> to the extent
> >     >>>>>>>>> that it does not at all regulate USG surveillance of
> non-Americans outside
> >     >>>>>>>>> of America.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> FISA is at 18 USC 1801 et seq, in Chapter 36 of our US
> Code:
> >     >>>>>>>>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-36
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> In most relevant part, Subchapter I deals with individual
> wiretaps
> >     >>>>>>>>> ("electronic surveillance"), II with secret physical
> searches, III with pen
> >     >>>>>>>>> registers and trap and trace devices (i.e. surveillance of
> metadata), IV
> >     >>>>>>>>> with records demands (now referred to as PATRIOT 215
> orders since it was
> >     >>>>>>>>> significantly amended by that section of PATRIOT).
> Meanwhile, Subchapter
> >     >>>>>>>>> VI--added by the FISA Amendments Act (FAA) in
> 2008--provided the new and
> >     >>>>>>>>> seriously problematic authority to obtain year long orders
> authorizing
> >     >>>>>>>>> "programs" of non-individualized surveillance of
> communications where at
> >     >>>>>>>>> least one party to the communication is outside of the
> country, while also
> >     >>>>>>>>> allowing without any court authorization the interception
> of any
> >     >>>>>>>>> foreign-to-foreign communications transiting the US; that
> is the authority
> >     >>>>>>>>> under which PRISM is being used, as far as we best
> understand it.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Therefore and to be absolutely clear: amendment to these
> laws--and
> >     >>>>>>>>> especially a narrowing of the FAA--would SUBSTANTIALLY
> impact the privacy
> >     >>>>>>>>> of every non-American who uses modern communications
> networks and services,
> >     >>>>>>>>> especially those with facilities in the US.  And the
> assistance of
> >     >>>>>>>>> international civil society will be critical in any effort
> to accomplish
> >     >>>>>>>>> such amendments.  So--thank you all for what you've been
> doing!
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Best,
> >     >>>>>>>>> Kevin
> >     >>>>>>>>>    ____________________________________
> >     >>>>>>>>> Kevin S. Bankston
> >     >>>>>>>>> Senior Counsel and Free Expression Director
> >     >>>>>>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology
> >     >>>>>>>>> 1634 I St NW, Suite 1100
> >     >>>>>>>>> Washington, DC 20006
> >     >>>>>>>>> 202.407.8834 <tel:202.407.8834> direct
> >     >>>>>>>>> 202.637.0968 <tel:202.637.0968> fax
> >     >>>>>>>>> kbankston at cdt.org <mailto:kbankston at cdt.org><kbankston at cdt.org>
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Follow CDT on Twitter at @cendemtech
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen <
> >     >>>>>>>>> anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org><anriette at apc.org>>
> wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>  We need a clean copy.. but I am afraid I can't work on it
> today.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> But thanks MIke and others who have given input.  I would
> be happy
> >     >>>>>>>>> to let Joy and Jeremy clean up and give us a version to
> send tomorrow or
> >     >>>>>>>>> Friday.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> By then we might also have responses to Andrew Puddephatt's
> >     >>>>>>>>> questions.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Anriette
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2013 15:03, michael gurstein wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>>>> I`ve commented as well and also around all day...
> >     >>>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>> M
> >     >>>>>>>>>>
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> >     >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:28 AM
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> >     >>>>>>>>> irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> <mailto:irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org><irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
> >     >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [bestbits] International civil society
> letter to
> >     >>>>>>>>> Congress to
> >     >>>>>>>>>> follow up from HRC statement
> >     >>>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Great work. Thanks Joy and Jeremy . I have made some
> comments. Will
> >     >>>>>>>>> be
> >     >>>>>>>>> around all day if needed.
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> Anriette
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2013 06:01, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>>>> This follows on from a telephone call organised by the Web
> >     >>>>>>>>> Foundation
> >     >>>>>>>>>> yesterday, in which APC was asked to coordinate a civil
> society
> >     >>>>>>>>> letter
> >     >>>>>>>>>> to the US government from international organisations.
> That
> >     >>>>>>>>> letter
> >     >>>>>>>>>> would follow on from our joint statement to the Human
> Rights
> >     >>>>>>>>> Council,
> >     >>>>>>>>>> and we would invite Human Rights Watch and Privacy
> International
> >     >>>>>>>>> to
> >     >>>>>>>>>> participate in drafting.  APC agreed to do this and
> suggested
> >     >>>>>>>>>> continuing to use Best Bits as the coordinating coalition.
> >     >>>>>>>>>> Here is the first rough draft of the text that Joy from
> APC and I
> >     >>>>>>>>> have
> >     >>>>>>>>>> begun to put together, which awaits your comments and
> >     >>>>>>>>> improvements:
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>> http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/your_name_here (sorry for the
> dumb
> >     >>>>>>>>> URL)
> >     >>>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>>> Although I'm cc'ing the IRP and Web We Want lists, to
> avoid
> >     >>>>>>>>>> fragmentation of discussions on the text like happened
> >     >>>>>>>>> inadvertently
> >     >>>>>>>>>> last time, can I suggest, if nobody objects, that we
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> >     >>>>>>> --
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
> >     >>>>>>> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)
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> >     >>>>>>>
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> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>
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> >     >>>>> http://carolinarossini.net/
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> >     >>>>> @carolinarossini
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> --
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> --
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
> >     >>>> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)
> <http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/> <http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/>
> >     >>>> @joana_varon
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> --
> >     >>> *Carolina Rossini*
> >     >>> http://carolinarossini.net/
> >     >>> + 1 6176979389 <tel:%2B%201%206176979389>
> >     >>> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com><carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
> *
> >     >>> skype: carolrossini
> >     >>> @carolinarossini
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>
> >     >> --
> >     >>
> >     >> --
> >     >>
> >     >> Joana Varon Ferraz
> >     >> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)
> <http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/> <http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/>
> >     >> @joana_varon
> >     >>
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >     --
> >     ------------------------------------------------------
> >     anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org><anriette at apc.org>
> >     executive director, association for progressive communications
> >     www.apc.org <http://www.apc.org> <http://www.apc.org>
> >     po box 29755, melville 2109
> >     south africa
> >     tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 <tel:%2B27%2011%20726%201692>
> >
> >
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