[bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT

Gene Kimmelman genekimmelman at gmail.com
Mon Dec 2 09:12:35 EST 2013


Maybe Jeremy can answer:  I know we were streaming much of the meeting,
which hopefull captured this (second day of meeting, particularly the
afternoon), and we may have had note-takers who captured this; if not, I'll
cound on others to verify that I haven't lost my recall skills......yet!


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:08 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gene,
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> I wasn’t able to make the relevant portions of the BB meeting in Bali and
> I may have missed it but are there transcripts or minutes of what you are
> referring to below i.e. we decided in Bali on an approach and I endorse
> Anriette's path toward formalizing this.
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> Tks,
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> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *
> genekimmelman at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 5:46 AM
> *To:* rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> *Cc:* william.drake at uzh.ch; parminder at itforchange.net;
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval -
> URGENT
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> To be more specific,  maybe those with lingering concerns need to decide
> whether they want to participate on the best bits platform or not. You
> decide.  If you think you can make it work better,  please offer ideas like
> Anriette, Michael and others have done. I believe we decided in Bali on an
> approach and I endorse Anriette's path toward formalizing this. And I
> suggest we wrap up this conversation for now and move on to substance.
>  Otherwise we delegitimze the broad support people worked towards over two
> days in Bali and make it more difficult to prepare for Brazil.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Date: 12/02/2013 8:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: genekimmelman at gmail.com
> Cc: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>,Parminder <
> parminder at itforchange.net>,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval -
> URGENT
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> every response with such reluctance and  such kind of arguments raise more
> questions than giving answers or appeasing those with concerns.
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> as reminder BestBits initiative started in august 2012 when people were
> talking about WCIT and prepared first meeting IGF Baku, we will be in 2014
> in few weeks and we are still with temporary settings.
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> Rafik
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> 2013/12/2 genekimmelman at gmail.com <genekimmelman at gmail.com>
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> Internal accountability to a group with shared goals may differ from
> societal/global policy goals that the group will agree to if all others
> with power agree as well.  Best not to confuse these.  We should be
> accountable but not create internal processes that make it impossible to
> coordinate policy actions.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> Date: 12/02/2013 3:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Parminder Singh <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Cc: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> Best Bits" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
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> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval -
> URGENT
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> +1!
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> On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:23 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
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> Civil society must always remain very vary of thinking of themselves as
> somehow so morally superior that they are exempt from normal accountability
> and transparency requirements
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