[bestbits] [discuss] [governance] Report from the BR meeting local organizing group - Dec 2013

[parminder]

On Friday 27 December 2013 08:18 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 10:41 pm, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>> In any case, I request the leaderships of IGC, BB, APC and IRP 
>> colaition to let us know what there current position is on this 
>> issue, and what do they propose to do since it seems that things are 
>> going in the direction that they did not want them to go..
>
> Just speaking personally for now, while I remain skeptical about 1net, 
> I am content with the position that Ian has described, that the 
> coordinating group will be responsible for the nominations, and the 
> 1net committee will just be a conduit.  I don't see much "value add" 
> there, but neither do I see grave harm.

Jeremy

You had termed something as a 'power grab' not long back :)

If something is to be only a conduit, why would that role be sought by 
anyone, and conferred on anyone.... I am sure the Brazilians are 
perfectly good in running email ids for themselves....

Firstly, there could be issues about forwarding names for organizing 
committees... Bill elaborated just now how some groups cannot claim that 
they exhaust the category of 'civil society' .... If more names get 
forwarded than there are CS slots on different committees, who prunes 
the numbers down..... This is the crucial question.... Can you assure me 
that it wont be 1Net, who would be asked to just forward the perfect 
number and no more....

Secondly, this is an official entry of 1Net as (an extremely important) 
formal entity into the Brazil meeting process... Cant you see that! At 
present, it is about the committee members' nominations. Later it will 
be about receiving, drafting, organising, compiling substantive 
inputs..... And when one is caught in a bind about what exactly is to be 
considered a 'mainstream' input from one stakeholder group or the other, 
a similar choosing role will arise... Who will do it. Watch out for 
1Net, soon to be declared as bottom up, properly constituted 'community 
process'.

And well of course, it is by now clear to me that the main role that 
1Net will play is to present a 'consensus' (or thereabout) community 
view on substantive matters - the proposed outcomes of the meeting - a 
set of Internet principles, and a road map for reform of global IG (or 
for not reforming it). (If you are a betting kind I am even ready to  
take bets :) )

Anyway, I really hope that civil society stops playing naive..... And to 
the extend some actors here are not playing naive but it is a considered 
pursuance of a political thinking and strategy, please be clear about 
it....So that others who have a different political thinking may be 
allowed to express themselves fairly and allowed to do what they want to 
do. That I would say is a core civil society value. Separating people 
into 'nice' and 'not so nice' categories wont do any more to cover up 
real deep politics in operation here...

parminder












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