[governance] [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps

[Rafik Dammak]

Hello,

I am wondering if we are not giving too much weight to HLM than it should
 be and doing for it  a free promotion! honestly, I was not in favour of
the ICANN strategic panels since they are not bottom-up, formed by
handpicked members and bypassing the usual process. I found now that we
want badly to be in that high level panel and making it relevant and maybe
even giving it a big role for Brazil meeting! hope that we wont regret such
decision later.

we can ask for giving inputs, openness etc but that will be definitely
depending to the will ICANN/WEF/Anneberg Foundation and there won't be any
guarantee on how they process the inputs or how it will be included in
their deliverable. everything is ad-hoc there and any decision will depend
to the will of the organisers. why shall we encourage such process?

Back to the previous discussion, Bill was invited as expert and the name of
panel is not "an expert group" , I don't see the confusion here.

Rafik


2013/12/10 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>

> Milton is right about the (lack of) process. On the one hand, it is
> positive that we have someone we trust there. On the other hand, it does
> seem that they are including who they want and how they want, totally
> disregarding the serious process we have been conducting to appoint names.
>
> I think that a letter signed by all organizations that participated in the
> nomination process should be sent to ICANN and ideally read during the
> meeting, expressing our frustration and adding some concrete suggestions. I
> come back to the points I made earlier:
> - the agenda of the HL panel meetings should be publicized in advance
> - channels to receive inputs (procedural or substantive) should be created
> or clarified
> - their meetings should be open to observers (like the meetings of the
> CSTD ECWG)
> - Reports of the meetings should be published. They could follow Chatam
> House rules
> And
> - CS representatives (names), who were appointed following an internal and
> legitimate process carried out by CS, should be immediately included in the
> HL panel to ensure minimum CS representation.
>
> Marília
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>
>> Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > The distinction between Bill's appointment as an expert and the CS
>> > groups' nomination of people to be on the committee is not so clear
>> > to me, and we cannot assume that it is clear to Fadi, especially
>> > since the London meeting of the group starts in two days. Either one
>> > could be seen as Fadi making a concession to CS demands to be
>> > included in the HLLM, and he may consider one to be a substitute for
>> > the other.  At this stage, I would assume that if there is no
>> > appointment of another CS rep to the HL Panel by now, that there will
>> > not be one at all, and Bill is all we will be given. The fact that
>> > Bill's appointment came from a random F2F hallway meeting isn't
>> > something that inspires confidence, is it?
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Especially given that there was in fact a coordinated civil society
>> process through which names have been put forward.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
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