<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I am wondering if we are not giving too much weight to HLM than it should be and doing for it a free promotion! honestly, I was not in favour of the ICANN strategic panels since they are not bottom-up, formed by handpicked members and bypassing the usual process. I found now that we want badly to be in that high level panel and making it relevant and maybe even giving it a big role for Brazil meeting! hope that we wont regret such decision later.</div>
<div><br></div><div>we can ask for giving inputs, openness etc but that will be definitely depending to the will ICANN/WEF/Anneberg Foundation and there won't be any guarantee on how they process the inputs or how it will be included in their deliverable. everything is ad-hoc there and any decision will depend to the will of the organisers. why shall we encourage such process?</div>
<div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Back to the previous discussion, Bill was invited as expert and the name of panel is not "an expert group" , I don't see the confusion here.</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Rafik </div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/10 Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Milton is right about the (lack of) process. On the one hand, it is positive that we have someone we trust there. On the other hand, it does seem that they are including who they want and how they want, totally disregarding the serious process we have been conducting to appoint names.<div>
<br></div><div>I think that a letter signed by all organizations that participated in the nomination process should be sent to ICANN and ideally read during the meeting, expressing our frustration and adding some concrete suggestions. I come back to the points I made earlier:</div>
<div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div class="im"><div>- the agenda of the HL panel meetings should be publicized in advance</div><div>- channels to receive inputs (procedural or substantive) should be created or clarified</div>
<div>- their meetings should be open to observers (like the meetings of the CSTD ECWG)</div><div>- Reports of the meetings should be published. They could follow Chatam House rules</div></div><div>And</div><div>- CS representatives (names), who were appointed following an internal and legitimate process carried out by CS, should be immediately included in the HL panel to ensure minimum CS representation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Marília</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div>Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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</div><div>> The distinction between Bill's appointment as an expert and the CS<br>
> groups' nomination of people to be on the committee is not so clear<br>
> to me, and we cannot assume that it is clear to Fadi, especially<br>
> since the London meeting of the group starts in two days. Either one<br>
> could be seen as Fadi making a concession to CS demands to be<br>
> included in the HLLM, and he may consider one to be a substitute for<br>
> the other. At this stage, I would assume that if there is no<br>
> appointment of another CS rep to the HL Panel by now, that there will<br>
> not be one at all, and Bill is all we will be given. The fact that<br>
> Bill's appointment came from a random F2F hallway meeting isn't<br>
> something that inspires confidence, is it?<br>
<br>
</div>+1<br>
<br>
Especially given that there was in fact a coordinated civil society<br>
process through which names have been put forward.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
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