[governance] RE: [bestbits] [JNC - Forum] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Wed Oct 29 20:29:21 EDT 2014


Using 1950s rhetoric repurposed from ancient Grecian rhetoric does have its pitfalls when discussing a considerably younger set of systems.

--srs (iPad)

> On 29-Oct-2014, at 23:52, Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu> wrote:
> 
> Sorry to intrude, but can someone explain how Alibaba's record $20 billion IPO and valuation predicted by Wall Street to trend towards $500 billion, dwarfing those of most of certain parties favorite US Internet business is evil targets, fits in this equation?
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> http://www.businessinsider.com/analysts-on-alibaba-2014-10
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> My personal view: I suggest the unipolar/state-centric frame offered by some to consider who is winning from the present - distributed Internet architecture - doesn't match the market data.​ 
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> Or at the least, it is short accounting for a few more hegemons who appear to doing quite well under the ancien regime, thank you. ; ). 
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> 
> Lee 
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> From: pouzin at gmail.com <pouzin at gmail.com> on behalf of Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: forum at justnetcoalition.org
> Cc: parminder; michael gurstein; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; &lt,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt,; rhill
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] [JNC - Forum] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management
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> The India's proposals at PP, commented by Parminder, sounds like rational politics in the context of an hegemonic State representing its own lobbies/monopolies and a worldwide mass surveillance/spying organisation. Whether each State is more or less democratic is a diversion in the discussion, which pertains to independence and mutual trust. Of course impacts have to be analysed, but this is for each State to draw its conclusions.
> Louis
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>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
>> I agree with Parminder's analysis.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Richard
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