<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Using 1950s rhetoric repurposed from ancient Grecian rhetoric does have its pitfalls when discussing a considerably younger set of systems.<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 29-Oct-2014, at 23:52, Lee W McKnight <<a href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>Sorry to intrude, but can someone explain how Alibaba's record $20 billion IPO and valuation predicted by Wall Street to trend towards $500 billion, dwarfing those of most of certain parties favorite US Internet business is evil targets, fits in this equation?<br>
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<p>My personal view: I suggest the unipolar/state-centric frame offered by some to consider who is winning from the present - distributed Internet architecture - doesn't match the market data. </p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Or at the </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">least, it is short accounting for a</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> few more </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">hegemons who appear to doing quite well under the</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> ancien
regime, </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">thank you.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> ; )</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">. </span></p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:pouzin@gmail.com">pouzin@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:pouzin@gmail.com">pouzin@gmail.com</a>> on behalf of Louis Pouzin (well) <<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com">pouzin@well.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:forum@justnetcoalition.org">forum@justnetcoalition.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> parminder; michael gurstein; <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; <,<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>,; rhill<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] [JNC - Forum] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management</font>
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<div dir="ltr">The India's proposals at PP, commented by Parminder, sounds like rational politics in the context of an hegemonic State representing its own lobbies/monopolies and a worldwide mass surveillance/spying organisation. Whether each State is more
or less democratic is a diversion in the discussion, which pertains to independence and mutual trust. Of course impacts have to be analysed, but this is for each State to draw its conclusions.<br>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I agree with Parminder's analysis.</font></span></div>
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