[governance] RE: Has U.S. started an Internet war? By Bruce Schneier + tinyURL

[parminder]

I read something yesterday which is perhaps even more dangerous..... in 
fact, rather chilling. A report said how through such back door controls 
'evidence could be created/ planted' against anyone for anything, and 
thus use the coercive powers to the state to one's (digital controller) 
own ends.... Much of investigation world wide today rely on electronic 
documents, traces etc....
The whole basis of the digital world system is shaken...

parminder

On Wednesday 19 June 2013 03:20 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
> I actually think it may be even more serious than  that...
>
> How long are the various multilateral agreements opening up national markets
> to international free trade and contracting going to survive once it is
> realized that the surveillance mechanisms which have been put into place
> mean that there is at least the potential for US interests to have access to
> the entire range of commercial (not to speak of IP) secrets as for example
> access to bid documents, assessment criteria, cost analyses etc.etc. in
> competitive bidding which are the bedrock of international trade?
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> One of the documents released pointed to the cosy and mutually supportive
> relationships of the NSA with thousands of US private sector companies and
> to the 4 million US citizens with Top Secret clearance for information
> access.  Could one of those companies (or some of those individuals) be the
> company (or an employee of the company) that your non-US company is bidding
> against under one of these "free" trade agreements and if so, what is the
> point of bidding if the result is already fixed?
>
> M
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:30 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
> Subject: Re: [governance] RE: Has U.S. started an Internet war? By Bruce
> Schneier + tinyURL
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> In time these events may prove far more serious for the Internet's future
> than may be apparent at this stage.
>
> The most powerful advocate of Internet freedom and multistakeholderism is
> being seen now as a party acting in its self interest rather than for global
> interests, and multistakeholder is beginning to seem like a philosophy of
> convenience to protect US dominant interests.
>
> I expect to see more and more walled gardens. I expect the IANA oversight
> question to be raised more loudly, and US intransigence on this question to
> lead to serious repercussions for ICANN as well.
>
> This might be the end game for the global Internet as we know it. I don't
> see how we move on from here to achieve sensible outcomes. I'm sure global
> connectivity will remain, but I dont see the sort of facility we used to
> enjoy and we probably all hoped for remaining intact.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael gurstein
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:20 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: [governance] RE: Has U.S. started an Internet war? By Bruce
> Schneier + tinyURL
>
> No with tiny URL
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> http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/18/opinion/schneier-cyberwar-policy/index.htm
> l?hpt=hp_c3
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> http://tinyurl.com/n35rd8h
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> M
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